old topic is locked, so here is the continuation
Windows 8.1 user here, Most probably my last topic here for a while so please read and give your support…
Continuing the discussion from Some of your questions answered. Recap of Community Call from 09/20/2022:
Unfortunately, Today brave has decided to drop support for Both Windows 7 as well as 8.1
where nearly 13% of windows users are still on these platforms (If on average 1.5 billion users runs windows today, then it’s roughly 30 million users who are still on these two platforms, this is minimum estimated numbers)
Im strongly convinced myself to not upgrade to windows 10 or 11, they are no where as good as windows 8.1 & 7 in terms of customization, user friendliness and giving full control and power over the operating system to command the computer to what to run and what not to. i want lightweight OS and Win 10 & 11 aren’t. i will continue to use brave just as it is in the way it’s right now for the next two years, Let’s wait for windows 12 to see whether it actually feels like an OS made for computers worth upgrading… i personally believe windows 7 and 8.1 were the last truly great operating system made for the PCs(in mind). Windows 10 and 11 is starting to feel like it’s an advanced version of android made for computers. it’s not bad or average but i don’t get the same excitement and happiness which win 8.1 & 7 are capable of delivering. Microsoft No longer cares about offering variety and maintaining a wide portfolio of windows and adding support to all of them, I believe Microsoft can do it but they purposefully scrap the older OS versions and disrespect the classics just to force push users to the newest OS versions to exaggerate the user counts and make profits from ad revenue which they show on MS Store and suggested content, pre-install apps, bloatwares…etc…
I really like brave and i do find it depressing that brave is not working on “Establishing a meaning for why they are running a company”,i mean a company shouldn’t exist just to make money because just about any company can make money, it’s important to earn an unique identity and establish a meaning…
Here, Have a look at this…
All these videos often criticize Brave like “it’s just another browser” and also mocks the browser for chromium dependency. i personally believe “just another” to be insulting as it confirms that there is nothing unique or special about someone or something…
Here, have a look at this, this is mypal, the developers of this browser work hard to strive for a establishing a meaning and fulfilling a need for people who prefer older version of windows…
ok, i get the argument, there is no point in making browser where users are less, but it’s important to note that this browser has a meaning for it’s existence and won’t fall that easily into the category of “it’s just another browser”
i know completely moving away from chromium can be hard but everything had to be started at some point of time, Remember, Before chromium, there was internet explorer, Google made an effort so now chromium is popular. Before Google Docs, there was MS Word, Google made an effort so now Google Docs is futuristic and popular… Google might have android tv OS, But Samsung made an effort and thus Tizen OS is more super fantastic than android TVs, So the Lesson which is need to be observed here is, Regardless of what others are doing, if we put an effort today, with proper planning, we can get ahead of others in the next 5 years of time.
Chromium in and of itself isn’t perfect, There is No Bookmark queue or Bookmark Assistant where if one bookmark from a folder gets removed, Browser automatically loads the next bookmark link which is on that folder on the same current tab or new tab of user’s choice, No independent browser scaling like telegram desktop…
See here, there is a problem, i set the page zoom to be 200% on settings, extensions also getting zoomed in…
Zoom Bug with 200%
100% Normal size
the right design would be each extension having an independent zoom setting on the extension page to customize everything the way we want, Also there are other problems like,
- Lack of ability to set custom shortcut key to launch websites (For example, Pressing alt+ B does nothing, so if i press the key while the browser is in focus, Brave community automatically gets loaded in a new tab)
- Lack of ability to always open link in a new tab
- history (only 3 months)
- Lack of ability to “Auto resume/Self retry” failed downloads once the connection becomes online where the browser attempts to restart the error downloads without user input.
- Lack of ability to force reload all tabs at startup
- Lack of ability to open link in a new tab but not to load or freeze the tab after X minutes of time
- Lack of ability to always Block all websites notification requests
- No Notifications whenever a new sync code is generated (last word)
- No Native Gestures support (For example, i want to hold on a link and right swipe the link to open link in a new tab but with chromium, i am unable to do it)
- No Data usage Statistics
- No CPU temp check…etc
We can blame 100s of faults about chromium based browsers but that’s not the point or even considered as an accomplishment, what matters is that we need to build something new which is independent of others and the browser keeps functioning continuously regardless of others dropping support. For this reason, Having an realistic goal is important, Brave should not fight/compete with chrome, Let Google do what they want to do and brave should focus on establishing an identity because competing with the other chromium based browsers and coming out on top is pointless because chromium will still get most of the credits… SO for the brave browser, brave should take a break from the brave browser itself (example, Brave’s future updates only dealing with Upgrading chromium and adblocking shields so the userbase is preserved and like Brave nightly, brave should release a new variant, maybe name it as Brave alpha, so on this alpha variant, it’s completely independent browser, no longer uses chromium, only thing which i believe will hold back brave devs is the extension support, but again here, brave devs need to break the dependency chain, instead of relying on extension devs, On the new brave alpha variant, brave devs should bring most of the extensions features built native into the browser)
Think about an average user, and look at the top 30 most used extensions, it would mostly be adblocker, screen recorders, screenshots, spell checks, tab management, VPNs…etc… all of this can be built right into the browser… once brave crosses the 3 years timeframe, all of the smart extension devs will consider opening up support of their extensions for the brave browser too, considering the fact brave devs can provide a new store and features equivalent to chrome, making the work loads of extension devs for porting to the brave browser to be super easy.
Instead of competing on the browser market, Brave’s future will be much more energetic, pleasant and meaningful if they could figure out a way to work on providing custom OSes which is based on windows, Built in antivirus integration, VPN integration… i.e Brave Inc would be much better if it strive to be a security and privacy based company rather than a browser based company. Although i haven’t seen much custom made ISOs which are based on windows, brave can do it first in a way where brave opens up a gateway on the Brave OS to Microsoft to get their % cut (license fee) and brave profiting from Brave antivirus, Brave vpn, Brave Firewall…etc
I want Brave Inc to be more like McLaren (McLaren doesn’t make most of the money but it’s there in top 5 Supercar Makers with unique identity)
Please choose to be unique, try to be unique and think that you can because i think brave can do it. A Windows 11 custom ISO with win 7 , 8.1 themes and icon support, bloatware removal, telemetry removal would be great… i will be happy to download it from brave or Github… i especially love Win 8.1 icons, Much more beautiful than Win 10 and 11
