Yandex Search less censored than Brave Search? Please say it isn't so!

https://michaelsuede.substack.com/p/search-engine-censorship-test-results?s=r presents a pretty compelling case that Brave Search is not without bias at all, unfortunately.

Please respond to this, Brave. Thank you.

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I think you should research a bit more about the topic.

I presume you have researched this. What is your verdict or summary?

This “ranking” is garbage, to put it politely.

@talgeeze Can you elaborate on your opinion here?

Typing random words on a search engine and ranking the results according to the number of sources that go along with your own views is not a critical approach.

I appreciate your response … I don’t see the randomness here that you cite, though.

Did you even read that “article”?

@talgeeze I read the whole thing … I happen to agree with the author of that article, also, after reading it.

Read about how brave search index functions in detail. https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/4409406835469

Read about what is goggles feature that they are launching in detail https://brave.com/static-assets/files/goggles.pdf.

Brave search has recently come out of beta and is quite a new product.

Your opinion that yandex censors less compared to western search engines is wrong (IMO). Yandex bows and obeys what russin federation asks them. Meaning just as some western search engines will bury pro-russian content, yandex will bury pro-western content.https://reclaimthenet.org/yandex-adds-misinformation-labels-as-russia-warns-media/ (the yandex thing currently is not similar to ddg/qwant but will eventually increase.)

I have no idea who the author of the substack article is, but I don’t think he is well versed in tech topics. Yandex is a good search engine, no doubt about it, it is best for searching torrents/porn/pirated stuff/reverse image search.

Afaik, the author of the article does not seem to know much about mojeek or how it functions. Do read about mojeek a bit further.

Damn some people are so dumb it’s hard to believe they’re real.

@talgeeze Some people are so rude nowadays when one is trying to figure things out here … I am not surprised, though … it is a sign of the times we live in, sadly.

Thank you @chh_68 !!! Very informative and helpful!

Just ignore it. I think we should stop discussion due to some replies on the post.

A fake test designed by an extremely politized tinfoil hat conspirationnist to comfort his own views and further politize his readers.
Please, use your brain.

Thank you for your opinion, @talgeeze … I am not convinced you are right … at least, @chh_68 gave me some good food for thought here that seems more plausible in regards to the article I posted here.

Wow, @anon57438784 !!! Thank you so much for your thorough analysis! More food for thought! :slight_smile:

As others kind of stated, Brave Search is new. It was released June 2021 and is still officially in Beta. https://brave.com/brave-search-beta/

And their Search is actually from where they bought Tailcat, so it’s not like it was started and built entirely by Brave. https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/03/03/brave-acquires-tailcat-to-create-private-search-engine-competitor-to-google/ and https://brave.com/brave-search/

Anyway, it’s accumulating results based on what users are searching and providing feedback on.

Want to point out that.

  1. You’ll see it says Brave BETA in the top left. This is because it’s not finished or fully released yet.
  2. Where it says All, Images, etc you’ll see to the right of it says Info and Feedback. You can click Feedback to provide feedback on Search results so they can look at it and modify as needed. Brave is hoping that Users will do this, to help things come out as smoothly as possible.
  3. They still borrow from Bing and others. They also are very open on each Search how much came from Brave. You can access this by hitting the Gear icon on the top right of the page (far opposite of where it says Brave Beta). When you do that, you’ll see the info as showed in the screenshot below.

So this means my Russia Today search results were 86% from Brave and the rest were borrowed.

And when I say they track based on our searches, they kind of address that further at https://search.brave.com/help/independence

Brave Search doesn’t track you or your queries. Ever. It’s impossible for us to share, sell, or lose your data, because we don’t collect it in the first place. We leverage your browser to store information on how our search engine is helping answer your queries independently.

I still get confused by that quote above. Not storing data but somehow leveraging our browser to create data that contributes to search. Almost sounds like doublespeak, but I guess just trying to say they are randomizing things and not creating any individual tracking? In any case, figured I’d point that out.

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Ok you lost me here.

Your opinion that yandex censors less compared to western search engines is wrong (IMO). Yandex bows and obeys what russin federation asks them.

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Look a bit more into Kaspersky, Telegram (Durov) why they got out of Russia to Switzerland, Dubai.

A company based into a country (headquarter) will have to follow that specific countries laws. Brave will follow US laws, Kaspersky will follow Swizz laws, Telegram will follow UAE laws.

Yandex main audience is in Russia and Russian-speaking users, and not western users. So they will always try to court Russian users over non-russian users.