The funds in your Brave wallet are virtual

slatan · August 27, 2020, 5:53pm

Please advice. Getting the following message in Brave rewards. Connecting to Uphold account does not resolve the issue. Started with version 1.12 and today’s new version 1.13 did not resolve the issue.

“The funds in your Brave wallet are virtual and not required to backup. It’s available for you to spend exclusively on this browser”

Thank you!

Mattches · August 27, 2020, 6:01pm

@slatan,
What exactly is the problem you’re reporting here?

slatan · August 27, 2020, 6:31pm

My funds are virtual and I am unable to restore my wallet, Brave recommended connecting to a verified Uphold wallet .When I connected to uphold account, Brave rewards still does not see my verified Uphold account and thinks I am not connected. See picture atached

"The funds in your Brave wallet are virtual and not required to backup. It’s available for you to spend exclusively on this browser

If you’d like to secure all of your funds in the case of clean installing the browser or switching to a new device, and have other benefits such as adding, withdrawing and transferring funds, we recommend connecting to a verified Uphold wallet"

Mattches · August 27, 2020, 6:54pm

@slatan,
So what exactly happens when you attempt to verify your wallet with Uphold?

ambrocioisaias2808 · August 27, 2020, 7:06pm

BAT stored locally in your browser is virtual, It only becomes real BAT when It gets to your Uphold account or you tip creators.

ambrocioisaias2808 · August 27, 2020, 7:08pm

Also, since 1.3V recovery key doesn’t recover BAT earned on a browser instance, it only rescues pending rewards.

slatan · August 27, 2020, 7:08pm

You don’t read my message. As I said, Brave rewards still does not see my verified Uphold account and thinks I am not connected. See picture attached…“The funds in your Brave wallet are virtual and not required to backup. It’s available for you to spend exclusively on this browser”

slatan · August 27, 2020, 7:09pm

When I connected to uphold account, Brave rewards still does not see my verified Uphold account and thinks I am not connected. See picture atached

ambrocioisaias2808 · August 27, 2020, 7:09pm

That message is static it will not change even if you sync your Uphold account. But if your uphold is already connected don’t worry, your pending rewards will be payout at the end of the month

slatan · August 27, 2020, 7:11pm

What if I need to restore the wallet, it did not let me to restore

slatan · August 27, 2020, 7:12pm

How do I know how many browsers are connected to Uphold? If 4 are allowed, then i might need to disconnect them

ambrocioisaias2808 · August 27, 2020, 7:42pm

What did you mean? You have your recovery key and you tried to recover your wallet? or You want to get your recovery key?

As for:

There isn´t a official way to know that, my best guess is that you can get an idea going to uphold in a section called ‘autorized applications’, you can see there some brave instances listed (if you had ever connected to uphold). But i really don´t know for sure. In any case it´s not possible to eliminate a wallet from the 4 lifetime list, i really don´t know how they manage this, but for now there isn´t a way do delete one of them. And before you try to revoke permissions on uphold side, don´t do it, we not know how they store that data, and well you can mess up things for you.

ambrocioisaias2808 · August 27, 2020, 7:35pm

As for more explanations read this:

How to restore Brave Verified Wallet after changing the PC

Before writing this i began to research in all posible places with info related to slots on uphold. And just to avoid giving a bad answer i did this with the mentality of a new user. What i found is this:

Lifetime slots on uphold depend on your browser wallet.

Before the actual situation we could get our wallet seed phrase, and with that we could use it to recover only pending rewards (since 1.3v) but also to avoid uphold lifetime limit. What really counts are not devices, but wallets.

So if in a year i needed to format and reinstall an O.S. in my computer, lets say 4 times, and then i installed brave and recover my wallet. Then if i connected uphold on those 4 times it will only count as 1 slot not 4, this because i´m using the same wallet. So with this i can say i had a wrong idea (sorry for that).

In other case let´s say i didn´t recover my wallet and began all those 4 times with a new one, then the 4 slots were going to be wasted.

So the correct statement is we have a 4 lifetime wallet limit. But:

Actually the function of getting your wallet seed phrase is disable (due to wrong conception on recovering earnings since 1.3v like you can read on my past comment), so with this is correct to say that we have a 4 lifetime device limit, this since the common user scenario is installing brave once per device. So said that, with a new install comes a new wallet and with that a new slot to waste if you connect to uphold (if you are a new user and/or you don´t have seed phrase). And well the same applies to mobile.

I know this sounds unfair, for now, but the actual efforts are to use syncv2 to sync this wallet data, so this can be a solution, not only to recover earnings and pending rewards but to also avoid lifetime limit.

Sources:

But well i do not know what admins think about all of this, this is what i know, good thing is to have mattches here checking this thread.