Problem 1: I disabled “Answer with AI”, but Brave search still has a button for answer with ai. Its annoying and distracting.
Problem 2: I disabled Code LLM. Code LLM still appears in my search results.
Also, I’m using firefox, so settings in the Brave browser are off-limits for me.
I switched from ddg to brave because of the ties to microsoft, but if theres no way to get rid of the AI annoyances, I’m switching back.
So the button is there but it does nothing if disabled. But I get that it doesn’t make much sense for the button to still show if it has been disabled. That said, this does seem to be just a cosmetic problem.
As for feedback, this is one place, but you’d probably be best to provide feedback and suggestions for Search using the Share Feedback button on Brave Search itself. That goes directly to the Search team
Are you sure? I just tested and if I have it off, then it doesn’t show. To test I used the search kill all processes related to port 80
Which then hitting Generate Answer looks like:
I’m assuming you just are seeing how they present information shared from places like Stack Exchange and are making the assumption it’s CodeLLM when it isn’t. In either case, definitely wanting to confirm what you’re seeing and whether it says the source is from CodeLLM.
I thought i remembered seeing it say “code llm”, but i tested it and it did dissapear
AI SHOULD BE OPT IN NOT OPT OUT.
I do not want AI. It is not useful. It makes the internet worse. How do I turn it off.
PERMANENTLY not just on a single tab of search results. I NEVER want AI in my search results period.
This is coming from someone who has actively developed LLM based products.
Get rid of it or give me a way to permanently disable it.
How can I turn it off. Forever. And ever.
Right click on the window > Brave > Block element > search.brave.com##.suggestion.desktop-large-regular.t-secondary.llm.svelte-lz5rr5
Funny but it works.
AI SHOULD BE OPT IN NOT OPT OUT.
I am experiencing the same issue.
- I turn off AI and LLM
-Then open a second tab
- The AI and LLM reappear
Forcing me to opt out on every tab is crazy making
Brave you can do better
I do not want AI. It is not useful. It makes the internet worse. How do I turn it off.
PERMANENTLY not just on a single tab of search results. I NEVER want AI in my search results period.
I’ve taken to adding the following cosmetic filters:
search.brave.com##.suggestion.llm
search.brave.com###submit-llm-button
If I have turned off the relevant AI/LLM settings Brave Search should not show the buttons.
I want the AI automatic responses to be disabled completely stop it from giving inappropriate responses when searching for information on controversial/serious subjects, and my concern with this is that this may incite violence.
Then have you turned it off yet?
How so? Any examples of where it might be doing this? And it providing details opposite of your beliefs is not a qualifier. AI is just using information gathered through the search engine to answer questions. I have not seen anything yet which should incite violence.
By “incite violence”, my concern is that is could say inappropriate BS in regards to serious subjects, thus causing nasty out of control fights when a complete retard sees what’s on another person’s screen.
Until now this criminal monster AI was shown as “deactivated” and only jumped to red- activated - while searching and then jumped back to not activated – now suddenly it ALWAYS shows up activated although in the settings everything is deactivated !
EU law tells that every content provider needs my personal consent to use technology reading or learning from my behavtior and I dont give this consent - we just go after Google and it will cost them Billions in Europe – now I will inform the organization to put Brave on the list – stealing from European Users without their possibility to deny consent … and it does not count if its “anonymous” or not - I am not willing to support any AI in any way – I want an online life without those monsters ! Several Million European Users will join this lawsuit and the costs alone can ruin a company – and this is good – time to show them that they cannot fool users any longer !
even when you deactivate it – when you open a private site or a TOR site its still activated … when you check “setting” it shows “deactivated” because it shows you the common settings and not private or TOR settings – there its only possible to do a first search … for example strong words and AI and then on the site of the results you cant that small flower-icon where you can change the site settings … here you have to deactivate everything again … and you must do it again next time you open a private or TOR site
This is really the lowest of all characters – stealing user behavior on sites where users think that they are safe – no difference if its “anonymous” or not – it is training the monster AI with my search behavior most of all showing them what users are looking for when they feel safe – and this is criminal – we already prepare a lawsuit under European law not only against Google but all other content providers - European law requires my personal consent to use such a criminal technology and if I dont give this technology is not allowed to work in any way or it will cost the company a fortune – even Microsoft went on their knees agaist that law … we will go after them !
Hi,
So I sent feedback to Brave about this, and created an account here to remind everyone that possibly quite a few users are *expecting a way to disable AI without having to manually go in settings.
In my case for example, I use private sessions often and I’m tired of re-setting this every time.
I’d like to discuss a few options that would suit me, apart from the ideal “off by default” (as let’s be honest, there’s no way it will happen):
The simple option: an url noai.search.brave.com which has AI disabled by default
The advanced option, which should exist anyway: all settings at the https://search.brave.com/settings page should really be part of the API (see https://api-dashboard.search.brave.com/app/documentation/web-search/query).
To be precise, for AI, I’d like the parameter “answerwithai”, a boolean which allows to load the url with the setting off.
In my case, I’d for example use the following query url by default in my browser (firefox): https://search.brave.com/search?search_lang=en&ui_lang=en-US&spellcheck=0&summary=0&extra_snippets=0&answerwithai=0&q=query
Compromise: an url same as the first option but with “lite”, as duckduckgo offers, which would have no AI and a much lighter interface (and I believe this is desirable anyway)
For context I’m quite fiercely opposed to AI answers by default.
Even if the trend to have RLHF-LLM systems everywhere seems undoubtful, the environmental, economical and especially ethical impacts are terrible.
On an extra note, this is currently holding me back from taking a subscription to Brave Premium. If this feature is implemented I will absolutely take it, as I find everything else Brave does excellent (independent index, focus on local results and discussions, transparency, privacy, etc.)
Best,
An annoyed user
edit: typo
What do you mean “it works”? It kills the AI?
I started using Brave more than a year ago and have until recently had a positive experience, but now it’s time to say adieu. It’s not me, it’s you—or more specifically, it’s the AI. I have disabled AI search I don’t know how many times, but like a bad penny, it just keeps turning up. Clear my cookies and bam, there’s “Leo“ playing Sam-I-Am, shoving green eggs and ham in my face after dozens of unambiguous refusals. Sometimes AI search seems to reenable itself for reasons I can’t figure out. And even when I manage to dodge the AI overviews, the endless invitations to “answer with AI“ make my eyelids twitch and my cortisol spike.
I’m taking the time to write this comment in part because I was so thoroughly irritated by a comment from Sampson on a now-closed thread, which concluded with the following bit of AI boosterism:
I’m reminded of the famous quote attributed to Henry Ford, “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” I believe we’re only scratching the surface of the potential and value offered by LLMs/AI, and users will be pleasantly surprised by various developments to come.
This paternalistic techbro arrogance sets my teeth on edge. Have you considered the possibility that all of us AI-averse plebs—the people whose “no“ you take to mean “ask again“—can in fact imagine the potential of the technology; we simply do not welcome a world in which AI is even more woven into the fabric of our lives than it is now? Except for advances in medical and climate research, I do not foresee a future in which I will be pleasantly surprised by anything associated with AI.
In any event, when I turn off AI search in Duck Duck Go, it stays off and out of sight. As you can probably tell, I’m fresh out of tolerance for AI pushers, so it’s goodbye lion, hello duck.
The fact that you haven’t seen it (yet) does not imply that it doesn’t exist.
Have you seen your own spleen yet?
@TDHofstetter the part of a reply you’re referencing is where I asked someone for an example. I’m not sure why you disregarded this and seem to try to mitigate the response. I had not seen an issue and therefore was asking for examples of where someone else has seen an issue. If they also aren’t aware of a problem, then there’s no problem to resolve.
Actually, yes. It isn’t like I held it in front of me but I have had surgeries done, cameras go through my body (like endoscopy, colonoscopy, angiogram etc), and all sorts of diagnostic tests done over the years.
Brave already lost 5 dollars just to me (2 months prorata to the yearly subscription)
As a reminder, I am waiting for a way to disable AI answers that doesn’t rely on cookies or anything that requires loading the page to set the preference in order to take premium.
This seems like it should be a 5 minutes fix in the API as discussed above
I’m giving this a few more months then I’m going back to duckduckgo. So much for all the other cool features..
I couldn’t have phrased this better.
But I get a lot of people still don’t understand why some users would want to disable AI. I’m personally not 100% opposed and may use the feature time to time, but I’d like to be able to choose a default.
My main reasons are the following:
There, I think I’m done for today and overall asking for this change, it will either happen or I’ll stop using your services.
And if you still are unsympathetic to those arguments, I wish you a good day in your illusions that genAI chatbots everywhere will make for a better world.
Edit: 100g not 1kg (that was for a year)
Referencing another post/thread with the same request:
While I’m at it, I’m sorry if this is a bit offensive, but those posts above seem lunatic to me:
Shouldn’t the discussion stay on more down to earth considerations maybe?
Edit: Clarification
First: if I disable AI search on Brave why am I still getting offered to search with AI? Why am I getting AI results that fill half of my screen? No means no. Why is is lunatic to complain about this (I am not offended I just don’t see your reasoning).
Second: AI is good for many things but searching is not one of them. You can never be sure that AI is not inventing “facts” or that the sources used by the AI are reliable. And while the AI answer states in the end the sources used if you want to be sure you have to double check, wasting your time. Now, why would you have to go through this if you disabled AI search?
Why am I being forced to clutter half of my screen with something I consider misleading?
A common example is when I search for a word meaning: why do I get an AI result when I can simply navigate to a dictionary? Furthermore AI spends a lot more energy than a conventional search: why am I spending all this energy for something I don’t want?
Thank you for pointing out the other topic. But should it be any topic at all about this? How hard can it be to respect people’s choice? If we do not want to use AI do not force us so.