I’m feeling that Brave is not being respected for user privacy, unfair, discriminatory…

That’s right, I agree with your point. Their policies and statements are not the same

Thing is, Brave is paying. Keep in mind payments are to your Rewards. Even if places like Uphold/Gemini can’t be linked anymore, they are doing their part when they pay it to your browser. Even restricted countries are still earning and receiving payments.

Anyone who had been linked prior would have received their payments. In fact, it kept people connected despite countries no longer being supported. Every time support was withdrawn, it was for people reconnecting or connecting new devices. So long as Rewards stayed connected/verified, people continued receiving payouts to Uphold/Gemini.

You’d be accurate in saying Brave has not done the best job of communicating with everyone though. This is still something I’ve been mentioning to Brave. They post on Reddit or here on Brave Community, but those postings can be easy to miss and not everything is using those services. Ideally they should have had a notification pop-up on windows or be displayed on New Tab Pages. This is one huge area where Brave is severely lacking, which is communication.

Word choice here can be interesting. Legally, they don’t have to give any notice. It’s all in the Terms and all, which most people navigate to and read. So in that, they don’t “have to” notify anyone way ahead.

I will agree with you if we change that to, “I think they should give longer notice” or something of that sort. Again though, they kind of have by allowing existing Users to stay connected even after they withdrew support. Challenge there though was many didn’t know support had been removed, so their first experiences were when they no longer could connect and then looked for support.

Strongly agreed with that. The communication part is a mess from what I see.

I am not sure you are aware of that. The wallet linking will be disconnected once in a while, and you have to relink them. So, which means people will eventually lose their connection.

The term is implicit and vague, and many people would not even waste time reading them because it usually tells nothing but just favors the company itself, not the users. Users will never be protected from any of those terms and conditions such as unpaid or limbo BATs, and this is part of the reason why OP claiming unfair. For the country to be removed from Brave reward, it has to be explicit and clearly whitten with sufficient guidelines and standards to follow. Any unpaid bat has to go back to users and ensure hitting their exchange wallet with sufficient time to withdraw them before the complete cutoff.

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Guess where I’m focused on specifics, this is where I’m saying is wrong. It’s not removed from Rewards. All countries are still available. The issue has been with custodial partners. In all decisions it either starts with Brave, Uphold, Gemini, or governments. Each impacted country has had different origins.

For example, Philippines, Vietnam, Venezuela and Gemini lost support from Uphold and Gemini, therefore Brave has nothing they can do about it. Russia, Ukraine, and others also lost support but due to government sanctions while the whole Russia/Ukraine war is going on.

As for other countries, each one has origins somewhere that nobody is telling us. Brave has said it’s Uphold on some things while Uphold said it’s not true and pushed it back on Brave. The challenge is there’s absolutely no way for any of us to know who is telling the truth. What’s interesting is both could be telling the truth, for example if Brave and Uphold were renegotiating the contract and the service issues resulted in that. I doubt it’s a situation like that, but just going to show how have to think outside of the box and know there’s always potential for little things we don’t tend to consider.

Yeah, I’m aware. That’s why I phrased things the way I did in the prior post:

Also, not sure if you’ve ever seen, but I’ve been quite active in speaking with Brave and trying to share updates all during this process. Hence by long topic over at PSA: Unsupported Region where I’ve been trying to provide at least weekly updates.

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Anyway, that was a good discussion, and I hope the Brave community keeps the discussion open for all and stops overprotecting the company. Many of them come here for a reason because they have a problem, including me. Always listening to users’ comments, and criticism sometimes is the best way to improve the product.

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same as you and i feel the same

I believe there are many people like us, they just don’t say it

Dude you are loosing your mind like someone just farted in your face :joy:

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