Description of the issue:
I tried to type in the url for a specific YouTube channel because the one in the link I was provided with had an obvious issue, but when I finished typing “youtube.com” the browser autocompleted the url of an unrelated youtube clip I had visited in the past (and which is saved in my bookmarks) & refuses to let me erase everything following “.com”, immediately autocompleting “/clip/soonandsoforth” How can this issue be reproduced?
see above (also see screenshot)
Additional Information:
edit: I unchecked bookmarks from the list for autocomplete & the issue went away, the thing is that having bookmarked pages as AN OPTION is a nice thing while being FORCED to choose between going to a bookmarked page on a site instead of some other page I’d like to go to directly by entering the url for the desired page & having to navigate through a varying number of bookmark folders to find the one I am looking for is, to put it lightly, sub-optimal.
@tsuhna literally doesn’t “force” you. Just hit the Del button and it would erase all the highlighted portion, which was everything after `youtube.com. You also can press up and down arrows on your keyboard to cycle through the options it’s listing based on what you typed.
And yes, the types of information is “guesses” from and shows you in that is based on what you have limited it to. Like if you have everything off but your bookmarks, then it’s always going to prioritize your bookmarks that match closest to what you’re typing.
Just hit the Del button and it would erase all the highlighted portion
no it wouldn’t, do you seriously think I didn’t try that before? hitting Del does nothing.
You also can press up and down arrows on your keyboard to cycle through the options
that doesn’t help when I want to enter an url that ISN’T LISTED.
And yes, the types of information is “guesses” from and shows you in that is based on
what you have limited it to. Like if you have everything off but your bookmarks
these are what it’s supposed to show me, it only lets me choose from the list, it does not let me type anything myself after “.com”, now I’d appreciate it if this was the last time you assume I am an incompetent idiot.
note that “automaattisia ehdotuksia” means “automatic suggestions”, SUGGESTIONS, as in I am SUPPOSED to be able to choose to IGNORE the options suggested by autocomplete & type something myself, right now it does not let me do that, it only lets me choose from the list of suggestions.
EDIT: I deleted the bookmark since apparently the clip doesn’t even exist anymore & now I can enter what ever I want, so problem solved I guess, until the same thing happens with another url…
If you are running MacOS or LINUX, then the following project could be worth a look :
Once installed you can use that command to start a private browser without any of your history, this should mean you can browse youtube without any suggestions popping up.
so instead of accepting that the way the autocomplete works is wrong (i.e. instead of accepting that I might want to enter an URL I have never visited before when it’s in a domain I HAVE visited before, it forces me to choose from URLs in that domain that I have visited in the past, unless I turn the suggestions off of course-) and/or maybe advising me on how to contact the developers in order to notify them of this matter, you are telling me to start running random shell scripts that defeat the purpose of having the suggestions turned on (something I can solve WITHOUT having to run unfamiliar shell scripts simply by turning the suggestions turned off-), am I understanding you correctly here?
I am not affiliated or assassinated with the Brave developers. If you feel uncomfortable using the script at the link above. You could instead try doing what it is doing manually but without screen. The idea is that you end up with a fresh copy of brave settings.
In a bash shell you could run these commands :
# setup the path depending on operating system
# if you are on LINUX
start_brave_path="brave-browser"
# if you are running MacOS
start_brave_path="/Applications/Brave Browser.app/Contents/MacOS/Brave Browser"
# create a temporary directory and set permissions so only you can access this directrory
browser_tmp_directory=$(mktemp --directory /tmp/browser-datra-XXXXX)
chmod 700 ${browser_tmp_directory}
# configure brave options
brave_options="--user-data-dir=${browser_tmp_directory} --incognito"
# start brave using that temporary directory
"${start_brave_path}" ${brave_options}
The above are the key elements striped out of the script which will allow you to start a clean copy of Brave without any user settings. The script linked above will do a much better job keeping it all tidy and I would recommend that approach. I also put some comments explaining what each command is doing.
An alternative would be to try setting up brave on a different user account or possibly on a different computer.
With any of those approaches. See if the problem persists. I suspect that maybe something is messed up in your settings. This is a quick way to see if you can reproduce the problem with a clean set of settings.
By all means report the problem to the Brave developers. But in my opinion, checking that the problem is not some sort of setting, extension you have loaded or maybe even an issue with the system or user account you are running is worth while.
It is possible a the developers will see your post and provide some other advice. But if you confirm that this happens say on another computer or with a fresh batch of settings, then you can also provide step by step instructions on how to reproduce the problem which will assist the developers with replicating and confirming the issue.
You may also find that the problem is just tied to some settings you have. In which case you could just delete them and start again with fresh settings. The script / approaches / example commands above are an easy way to see if your settings are the problem or if Brave has a problem which you can reproduce with fresh settings.
@tsuhna I just don’t know if we’re speaking about two different things or what? But way I’m looking at it is like you can see in the video below:
If you are talking about not liking the suggestion, you can remove it too, btw. Mouse over it and there’s an X that appear. Click it to remove. But not sure that’s what you’re referencing and doesn’t necessarily mean it won’t show up again in the future.
Such as in this screenshot below, I did a mouseover on the 3rd item down that says Ads Payout Status Update. You’ll notice since I moused over, there’s an X there. My mouse pointer can’t be seen in this screenshot but you’ll see where I’m hovering over the X and it even shows Remove Suggestion.
as soon as I type in the “m” in “youtube.com” it autofills the url for the bookmarked clip, and BOTH hitting backspace AND Delete do NOTHING, while the x you mention is there & clicking it DOES erase the highlighted part & lets me keep typing, if I follow “.com” with “/c” it autofills the url for the clip AGAIN, and this time there is NO x for me to click, if I type in “/w” it autofills the first bookmarked youtube video it can find & won’t let me erase anything, and if I have clicked the x once, it will not appear again unless I reload the page.
EDIT: if I disable autofill for bookmarks, the browser DOES let me replace what ever url the autofill decided to suggest for me, but if I have autofill for bookmarks enabled, I am back to being forced to choose between the list of suggestions compiled from my bookmarks and browsing history OR, as the sole alternative, doing a google search with what I have typed in.
If you look at the very top, that’s what you’re typing. The highlighted blue is what would be completed if you accept the suggestion. But if you continue typing it will be whatever you say. Or if you want to finish like just youtube.com/c and you hit delete, it would erase it.
If you’re looking at the stuff below, that is fully completed stuff. There’s no editing that. Everything shows or edits on the very top in the text box you’re typing in.
Your text box isn’t going to go from you being able to type to it suddenly not allowing you to do anything. If you’re expecting to be able to edit the lines underneath the text box, the things that are there just for your suggestions, then you’re going in with the wrong expectations.
Did you see the video I shared? How I was able to continue typing and all? How I could use my arrow keys to go up and down through the suggestions but even then could highlight stuff and delete it?
If you say you are seeing something else, then record it and let us see it. You can use things like streamable.com to upload a video and share the link here.
I tried one more time just to be certain, and while true enough I am able to keep typing, if what I type matches a bookmarked url, it WILL autofill the bookmarked url & I WILL be unable to erase anything, which is still a problem.
once again you are implying I am an idiot, STOP IT WHILE I AM STILL BEING CIVIL WITH YOU! I have been VERY clear about the fact that I can’t erase anything from the address bar once the autofill suggests a bookmarked page.
No, I will not jump through your ridiculous hoops just to prove that there is an issue, I have not asked for your advice, and I am in fact REFUSING any further advice from you, so JUST LEAVE ME ALONE ALREADY!!!
No implications at all. What I have done is asked questions to understand your issue and also have been trying to replicate. I showed you a video of how things have worked and asked you to show otherwise. I was leaning toward the things below. Either one or even a combination of both:
There’s an issue with communication. In this one or both of us might not have been understanding what the other person was trying to say. This is why I broke it down smaller and also made a video, while also asking you to do the same. This would give better perspective as to what’s going on.
This isn’t an issue with Brave but might just be your device. Or it could be an extension or something you have installed. So this could bring about questions like asking if your Delete button works? You may claim this type of question is calling you an idiot but it’s not. People can’t be expected to think of everything and sometimes the smallest little steps don’t get checked. Even the smartest people make mistakes or can look over the simplest things.
Yes you did. You created a post here on Brave Community. Notice the word Community? I’m part of that. I spend a great deal of time here helping people solve a lot of issues.
Okay, good luck. Your inferiority complex, poor attitude, and lack of communication is saddening. I really do suggest you work on that. But if you’re refusing advice, then you can’t be helped.
you said: “If you’re expecting to be able to edit the lines underneath the text box” as if that is something someone with brains would ever try to do.
and I am telling you that’s not how it works in my Nightly, which is why I specifically asked how I can contact the developers, I did NOT ask for anyone to explain to me over and over again how I can use arrow keys to choose between the suggestions WHEN THAT WAS NEVER THE ISSUE.
where did this one come from? I don’t see you asking that in any of your replies.
to ask how to contact the developers, not to go around in circles explaining over and over again that once the autofill suggests a bookmarked url, I can’t erase what is in the address bar.
EDIT: OK, looks like I actually DIDN’T mention that I wanted to contact the developers in the opening post, though I did mention it in a later comment, I am uploading that video you asked for.
@tsuhna thanks for that. To give you an idea, as I watched I was trying to think if there was something small I didn’t even consider, such as if mouse pointer position mattered or whatever else. And I tried experimenting with a number of other things. Which none have been able to have me replicate, but just is showing how I try not to take anything for granted.
Let me tag in @Mattches to see if he can come visit this and might have ideas. Until then, if you could kindly reply back with some additional information, it may be able to help narrow things down a bit more for them to better get you answers.
If you open in private window, does it happen there?
If you try in Brave Release or Brave Beta, do you have the issue?
Just to confirm, Del or Backspace works to delete text elsewhere, it’s only an issue in the address bar, correct?
Also looked back. While was trying to hit at certain things and address what’s being said, I did so very poorly. I’m definitely the asshole here. Sorry about that. I should have phrased things a lot better. Such as
Should have been more of a:
The intended behavior for Brave isn’t to do that. You should be able to just hit the Del button to erase whatever part of the suggestion is highlighted. And if you press up or down it should cycle through other suggestions. Just to confirm, this isn’t happening?
Both of us seem to have been trying to communicate around it but also somehow managing to upset each other, which wasn’t productive.
so, this seems to only affect Nightly, which is why I wanted to contact the developers, but it seems the part of the opening post where I asked about contacting the developers got erased (or something) while I was editing the post before posting.
that is correct, and only when the suggestion offered is a bookmarked page, suggestions from browsing history get autofilled but hitting backspace erases the highlighted part.
That certainly rubbed me the wrong way & I kept assuming the rest of your replies were written with the same tone, I shouldn’t have done that, hopefully we can move past that now.
I disabled all extensions & it solved the problem, when I enabled them again one by one to see which one caused the problem, the problem didn’t come back even with all the extensions enabled again, the bizarre thing is that I can’t think of a reason why any of them would have anything to do with the address bar or bookmarks.
Glad this is working. If you are having issues like this in the future, I would suggest using the script linked above ; which will essentially start brave in private mode and without any of your settings / extensions (clean slate - but without the need to switch users).
It is very strange that disabling the extensions and then turning them back on did not re-introduce the problem. But I am glad that the problem is sorted and it is not an issue which needs to be raised with the Brave development team.
It is great you are testing things out and reporting them
