Solana as a wallet

Hi there,

So I’m looking for a new wallet for my brave rewards because Uphold is terrible now, & I saw Solana is one of them, but then this page says it just helps you find a wallet, so I’m confused. Is it a wallet or a helper site (I can’t think of a good word LOL)

Also, I saw several complaints from 2 years ago that it always goes down.

Is that still an issue?

Thanks

@OurFreeSociety read through everything, including links I provide, over at PSA: Current and upcoming changes to Rewards and Creators

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Ok, somehow I never saw that page. Do I still need to follow it since it’s closed?

So I don’t understand, you guys started this in January of 2024?

Approx. how long before it’s done?

And this means moving forward I’m not going to get my reward payouts but they will accumulate over time?

And then I can use any wallet I’m already using & not have to have it sent to Uphold?

And when it’s done, do I tell the rewards where to go instead of you guys deciding when it’s paid out & where it goes?

Thanks

@OurFreeSociety I closed the topic to prevent off-topic replies, but I’ll continue posting updates there as we get them. So far, there hasn’t been anything significant since my last update in August, but we should hear more in the coming weeks. If you’d like, you can still follow the topic to get notifications when I update it.

To clarify the timeline: Brave started making progress around early 2024, with small batches of invites sent to early testers. I personally received an invite in March, but it wasn’t the first batch. The initial testers were mostly BAT Ambassadors and others actively helping Brave. On-chain payments have been available for Creators since January 2024.

Regarding the full rollout, we’re waiting for updates. Initially, Brave aimed for October, but due to Solana network congestion and issues with the RPC service, things were delayed. For example, https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2024/04/15/solana-rolls-out-update-to-tackle-network-congestion

Things still aren’t perfect either. If you look at Ads Payout Status Update right now you’ll see Solana payouts are still pending this month, which shows how it’s not up to snuff for them to make it available to everyone yet. Brave is gradually adding more users, but the rollout is still invite-only.

On KYC/AML:

When you switch to on-chain payments, you’ll receive your BAT directly to your wallet (like Brave Wallet) without needing KYC/AML verification from Brave or a custodial partner like Uphold. This should help avoid the issues you’ve had with biometric verification.

However, if you eventually want to convert BAT to fiat (such as USD, EUR, etc.), you may still need to go through KYC/AML with a centralized exchange like Coinbase, Binance, or Uphold. It’s important to note that these requirements are typically mandated by governments and exchanges, not Brave.

Alternatively, you can explore decentralized finance (DeFi) options if you prefer to stay away from centralized exchanges altogether, but this might require a bit more research depending on how you want to use your BAT.

Payouts and Process:

You’ll still receive monthly payouts, just like before, but they’ll be sent directly to your chosen crypto wallet instead of an exchange. It’s up to you how to manage your BAT from there.

Let me know if that clears things up!

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You mean to only those who were given an invite, right?

So they are going to use this Solona wallet even though it’s terrible? LOL

There are tons of wallets now. I just started using Kraken & while they also don’t understand English & just copy that same robotic text all the time like Coinbase that drives me insane, it’s actually fairly easy to use once you figure it out (on your own of course since they can’t help, but then show me one wallet who can).

But their customer service is very fast. I will give them that.

If you meant something different, apologies, please explain.

And it’s no coincidence that the US mafia gov’t is stopping all of these cryptos from working with US bank accounts. Again, all part of the plan to control our money & more. sigh

Well I don’t know why they can’t just pay me for Oct. (I created another thread that I haven’t been paid yet) since I still have the account for the moment & why even say they are paying others on Uphold if not ALL Uphold people are getting their rewards. I don’t understand.

Well that doesn’t help me at all b/c I don’t want to keep everything in crypto, although I make so little off of Brave rewards that I guess it doesn’t matter in the end.

So you mean Brave is creating it’s own wallet & then you would have to use a secondary wallet to move it into your US bank account? I know the verbiage/labels of these things are different, but I can’t memorize all of the names. LOL

As for the reason for the FORCING people to give up their ID over & over again and stealing their biometrics, if you aren’t aware of who controls all gov’ts, you will think this is normal, but it’s not & all gov’ts are mafia organizations. There’s enough proof of everything I say otherwise I wouldn’t say it, to convince anyone who isn’t brainwashed & unfortunately most people are.

But I won’t get into that right now. We are knee DEEP in their next control mechanism which is the DIGITAL PRISON which is only getting worse & worse.

I can give you tons of examples, but just to name one:

I can on longer send money via World Remit, Remitely, Waze, etc. to people worldwide. I had accounts with these types of services & used them, not a lot, but a bit for years, & as of late 2022 & early to mid 2023, I was STOPPED from being able to use them.

There’s 2 main reason:

a) I REFUSE to be forced to use a toxic cell phone instead of my REAL COMPUTER.

The cell phone is really a weapon & not just because the radiation from it gives you cancer, fries your eggs, sp.e.rm, & harms your brain, but it does so much more to harm us.

Again, unless you want the info, you can reach out to me otherwise I’ll be admonished for telling the Truth in here.

b) They say I have to be IN THE US to use the service LOL. Just nuts. Again, never had this problem before & I wasn’t in the US & yes my address & bank are there.

They don’t want us traveling around the world. It’s harder to track everyone that way.

Anyway, I’ll leave this for now, I just want you to know (and anyone else reading this), that this is NOT normal, this is TOTAL SLAVERY & if people just think it’s normal & accept it, they are helping support the DIGITAL PRISON.

And btw, the digital prison is going to get way worse. Just wait for 2025 which is an Agenda 21 milestone year.

No clue what DeFi is. First time hearing it (I think.)

I hate cryto LOL It’s the biggest waste of my time.

Every time I want to pay someone (usually freelancers, since there’s no other choice now) instead of it taking 2 mins. like with evil Pay Pal which I’ve now lost my account because I REFUSE to let them steal my biometrics & now all of a sudden they want ID when I’ve had a PP account since I don’t know when, 2000 maybe, crypto can take an hour upto 2 weeks of my time, & the same applies if I’m trying to get my crypto from you or Odysee.

I barely get any BAT, so using it for me just means converting it into USD & paying bills with it LOL

It certainly won’t pay for a vacation that I really need LOL

Thanks for all of you help.

Much appreciated.

Michelle

Creators haven’t ever required invite. Just go to your Creators page and you can attach your wallet. It’s Rewards that is invite only for on-chain payments.

First, Solana isn’t a wallet. Second, it’s not terrible at all. There just had been some maintenance needing to be done from people shifting over to it.

When you are listing Kraken and Coinbase, those are wallets and exchanges. Solana, Ethereum, Bitcoin, Optimism, etc are blockchain networks. I’m struggling to give some analogies here but let’s think of it it like this (I had been struggling on analogy so asked ChatGPT for help, here’s what I ended up with):

  • Blockchains (e.g., Solana, Ethereum, Bitcoin): These are the highways. They’re the infrastructure where transactions (or traffic) move. Each blockchain is a unique highway with its own rules, speed limits, and characteristics (like Solana being faster or Ethereum being more decentralized but slower).
  • Crypto tokens: These are the cars driving on the highways. Each token, whether it’s SOL, ETH, or BTC, represents the value moving around on its respective blockchain. Just like different highways have different types of vehicles (cars, trucks), different blockchains have different types of tokens.
  • Wallets: These are like your garages or parking spaces where you store your cars (tokens). A wallet holds the keys (private keys) to your tokens but doesn’t actually store them physically. You need a garage to keep your cars, just like you need a wallet to access your crypto.
  • Exchanges (e.g., Coinbase, Kraken): These are like dealerships or trade hubs. They let you buy, sell, or trade cars (tokens) from one blockchain (highway) to another. They make it easier to swap vehicles between highways or to trade your car for a new one.

The way Brave Rewards has been set up is that they originally partnered with certain “dealerships” (exchanges) to comply with government regulations. These dealerships followed all the rules and helped keep transaction costs low for Brave. Initially, Brave used Ethereum’s “highway” for these transactions. At first, driving on Ethereum’s roads (transacting) was reasonably priced, but over time, traffic increased, and it became more expensive.

Brave reevaluated this and decided to avoid the now busy and costly Ethereum roads. Instead, they switched to a faster, less congested network: Solana. Transactions on Solana are significantly cheaper. For instance, the average gas fee on Ethereum is currently around $1.44, while on Solana it’s a mere $0.000013. Even for the highest priority fees on Solana, it costs only about $0.027 (0.1 SOL).

By spending less to send these “cars” (tokens) to us or to the dealerships, Brave saves money. Plus, the roads (Solana blockchain) are clearer, allowing for faster travel (transactions). With this change, Brave no longer restricts rewards to specific “dealerships” (exchanges) but can now send tokens to any address that exists on the new road network (blockchain).

Basically is saying that the crypto (car) is now being given to you at any address. It doesn’t have to go to an exchange (dealership). The only limitation is it must be on a specific roadway (blockchain).

I started going on a big explanation about government, taxing, etc. but I’m going to avoid it and put this instead. The laws around cryptocurrency are constantly changing and government is being much more restrictive. The main idea is they know it’s money and they want their share. The idea of cryptocurrency existing and them not being in control scares them.

Options are decentralized transactions or centralized.

Centralized transactions go through a middleman, like a bank, Amazon, or eBay. These platforms keep detailed records of the transactions, and they’re required by law to share this information with the government if necessary. So, when you sell your cryptocurrency to convert it into fiat (like US dollars), the government can easily track the transaction and know that you’ve gained money. They’ll expect you to pay taxes on any profit, based on those records.

Decentralized transactions (often referred to as DeFi, or Decentralized Finance) are similar to selling something on Facebook Marketplace, Craigslist, or at a yard sale because there’s no middleman involved, and you’re directly exchanging goods or value with another person. Just like in those scenarios, you’re still technically required to report earnings for tax purposes, but because there’s no official record or third party keeping track of the transaction, it’s harder for the government to know what’s happening unless you voluntarily report it.

In DeFi, the blockchain records transactions, but because it’s decentralized, there’s no centralized entity (like a bank or platform) reporting those transactions to the government, making it more private—just like the transactions in your analogy.

So when converting to fiat…

You’d have to decide if you want DeFi. Centralized locations will require you to provide details like your SSN and all as required by governments. They are safer and tend to have transactions guaranteed.

Or you can go to DeFi which don’t require all of your information, but have less protection. Overall people use with little to no issues on a regular basis, but you have a much higher risk of fraud and deception.

Sorry, I’m off to bed in a sec as I’m really exhausted, but I still don’t have an answer to my question (or maybe I just didn’t understand) as to why I haven’t received my rewards if this new system is invite only, aren’t they paying out the rewards until you’ve been completely moved/invited over & everything is safe over there?

No one has responded to my thread here Never got Octobers rewards & Uphold keeps bothering me b/c they want to close the account, & I want to get my money before they do.

Please help. I’ll try to address the rest of what you said when I’m not so tired.

Thanks

Hello, did you get my last response?

@OurFreeSociety it looks like Evan123 responded to the topic you have on not getting October Rewards. Generally it’s best to file support tickets for any pay related issues. I have discussed this in my help topic over at Helpful Info & FAQ for Brave Users which is pinned to the top of both the Rewards category and Recent portion.

Not sure I understand the question here. People can’t get the on-chain invite unless they aren’t linked to a custodial account. So long as you’re on your Rewards that is connected to Uphold, you won’t be able to switch.

Hi,

I didn’t know & I forgot you have a ticketing system now b/c I have only ever used it once in all of these years & there wasn’t a ticketing system initially. I’m not used to looking at pinned messages nor do I even know where they are LOL

I thought you knew that I was waiting on my rewards & that’s why you were responding to me & you were going to help me.

I had no idea that this entire time you weren’t going to address the reason for me not getting my rewards b/c you didn’t know I hadn’t gotten mine yet. That was the whole purpose of me looking for another wallet b/c of Uphold.

I was trying to weed thru everything you wrote which is all Greek to me, & understand why I wasn’t getting the rewards. And I also had no idea that this new chain can only be implemented if I’m not on Uphold. SMH

Anyway, now I’ve lost the rewards.

Thanks anyway

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@OurFreeSociety this topic here was asking about using Solana to receive payments and was expressing your discontent with Uphold. That is all I was answering. Then once you mentioned the other issue, I was going to respond on it but Evan123 already had. Keep in mind I don’t work for Brave, so I’m limited on anything I can do for people. But I do spend a lot of time trying to guide people to the right answers and help resolve what problems I can.

Anything with the payments has to be handled by Brave and Uphold.

Pinned messages are usually kept at the top of a section so they’re easy to find. They’re pinned because they contain important information that’s good to check out. That way, they stay visible for everyone. You should almost always read any pinned topic you see on a support forum. Again, they aren’t pinned if the information it includes isn’t important for people to know.

Or if you visit each category. Like if you had Rewards issue:

Or when you go to Wallet category the two pinned messages on top

Then there’s the really big pinned topic for payout status that takes over as a banner