Running Brave on Mac Monterey can create bookmarks, but not keep them after closing browser

[toddmoore]

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Description of the issue:
Running Brave on Mac Monterey, I can create bookmarks, but not keep them after closing browser. I can also delete a bookmark, but it will reappear when the browser is closed and reopened.

How can this issue be reproduced?

1. Create a bookmark
2. Close Brave browser
3. Reopen browser and view bookmarks bar

Expected result:
Adding or deleting a bookmark should be routine. But my current set of bookmarks are seemingly locked into one moment of time.

Brave Version( check About Brave):
Version 1.35.101

Additional Information:
Mitigating factor: I also have a concurrent permissions issue that Apple is in the process of trying to resolve. They gave me a Terminal command that adversely impacted numerous files on my laptop. This Terminal command was intended to help. However, Apple agrees that, for some unknown reason, this command did adversely impact files on my laptop.
One example of symptom: I cannot make a change to any of my own Word files that existed prior to the terminal command without also then “saving as” another name.
Also, other things are impacted like my mac requiring my password just to move affected files to Trash or from Downloads to Desktop.
Apple shared desktop and discovered that impacted files that existed prior to that Terminal command now have an extra “everyone” listed in “get info” privileges section. (Saving grace: New files are not impacted.)
We also observed that the extra “everyone” entry has a “custom” access rather than the normal “read only” (which also still appears in the same “get info” list).
We also discovered that I can superficially put a “band-aid” on this issue by using my password to change that extra “everyone” access to “read only.” That action resolves the permissions issue for that file. Plan is for Apple to come back to resolve the entire issue. (restoring my Get Info to default).
I am hoping to independently resolve this issue - without losing my current set of bookmarks.

[289wk]

Toddmoore,

What is the Terminal window command that Apple gave you?

Are you the original owner of the Mac computer?

Did you perform the original setup for the Mac computer?

Did you create the first user account, and is that original account for you(?) . . . on the Mac computer?

[toddmoore]

Thanks for asking - replies to each question:

What is the Terminal window command that Apple gave you? I am sorry but it is was phone conversation with Apple and I did not write it down. It was a command related to permissions. Apple explained it was a routine command. Yet later agreed that. in my case, it was associated with the night/day difference (not related to the issue I actually called them about - which is also still unresolved).

Are you the original owner of the Mac computer? Yes. It is a fairly new 16" Macbook Pro running Monterey 12.2

Did you perform the original setup for the Mac computer? Yes. I used Migration Assistant. Brave bowser did not have this bookmark issue at that time. It occurred later. I cannot definitely say that the permissions issue caused it. In fact, that issue occurred in late Sept but I am just noticing the Brave issue lately. (Yet the permission issue seems so pervasive, I would not be surprised if it was related to the Brave bookmarks issue)

Did you create the first user account, and is that original account for you(?) . . . on the Mac computer? I purchased the new mac from Apple and set up the user account -I am the sole user.

NOTE: I did export my present bookmarks to an html file on my desktop. I am wondering if/how to completely uninstall brave and re-install - if that might resolve the issue?

[289wk]

Toddmoore,

Tx for the answers. For now, I am interested in your Mac computer permissions problem – and how that might be a cause for a bookmarks problem.

I am assuming that you now have some experience with the Terminal.app – using its window in order to enter commands.

Please open your Terminal.app on your Mac computer and at the prompt (in the window), enter (no quotes):

“ls -aln” (and tap your Enter / Return key)

The result should be a list of items that are contained within your Mac user account, home directory.

One of the result items might look like:

“drwx------ 4 501 20 136 Feb 13 13:11 .Trash”

The questions I asked, pertain to your Mac user account, user UniqueID number . . . it should be “501” (no quotes) and you should see that in the list of results, in your Terminal.app window.

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Terminal.app window command:

dscl . -list /Users UniqueID | egrep -v ‘_|root|nobody|daemon’

will produce a list of users on your Mac, including their individual, UniqueID.

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Also, among the list of results, please take a look at the results for the following:

Desktop
Documents
Downloads
Library
Movies
Music
Pictures
Public

The UniqueID of “501” should show for each.

BTW, please DO NOT send any info that reveals your Mac user account username_aka_shortname. Thanks. (I errored, in that regard, in an earlier edit of this reply.)

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Please take a look at:

Brave beta (MacOS) crashes upon open

@AOindian28 Mac OS directories Root: simply a forward slash / Root and System level folders / /Applications/ /Library/ /System/ /Users/ The “Brave Browser.app” application is located: /Applications/Brave Browser/ There, and hereafter, I am referring to the location of files and folders - assuming that a recent, stable release of Brave Browser is the only installed version. (No Beta’s. No Nightlies.) Your machine user account folder, aka home folder “your_username_aka_shortname”: /…

and follow the LifeWire article tips on how to make visible, your user account, home directory, Library folder.

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PS. Did Apple Support have you run thru a process similar to(?):

OS X: Repair Home Folder Permissions – The Mac Observer

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Where we are heading, is for you to run a couple commands:

cd /Users/username_aka_shortname/Library/Application\ Support/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser/Default

ls -al

where, for “username_aka_shortname”, you use whatever is your user account username aka shortname.

The result that you get, should be close to, or similar to:

-rw-------@ 1 username_aka_shortname staff 1359 Feb 13 01:44 Bookmarks
-rw-------@ 1 username_aka_shortname staff 1015 Feb 13 01:43 Bookmarks.bak

Again, DO NOT send info re your Mac user account, username_aka_shortname.

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How to take a Mac screenshot – use a combination of 3 keys:

Shift + Command + 4

and the mouse arrow will change, becoming a crosshairs – that you then drag across the area that you want to capture.

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Also, please get a look at the permissions for your user account, home directory, folders:

Desktop
Documents
Public

You can use the Terminal.app window commands:

cd ~/Desktop
ls -al

The use of the tilde character, is a shortcut for “/Users/username_aka_shortname” – you get the idea.

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Another PS, a bit of fun. In the Terminal.app window, use command:

cal 02 2022

It is a simple calendar. You can figure out, on what day of the week, some event occurred. You are now a Mac guru.

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For making notes, re what happens on your Mac, I recommend:

“https://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/”

Try the free download.

BBEdit is a bit more sophisticated text editor, than the TextEdit.app that is already aboard your Mac computer. With time, you will learn why BBEdit is valuable.

For example, today, in a new BBEdit text window, you can make notes of what you are learning, the URL addresses involved, and copy the Terminal.app content to the text file, too.

Another example, would be, when you back up your bookmarks – you may export them as a bookmarks.html file to your Mac computer Desktop, and then open that file, using BBEdit.

Use the Brave Browser application’s “Bookmarks Manager”, to back up your Bookmarks (“Export bookmarks”).

On the Mac Desktop, find that new HTML file that was created (its name may be similar to “bookmarks_2_13_22.html”). The initial lines of that new HTML file, will resemble:

A bookmark file, entry for the Brave Search Engine:

Note the ADD_DATE value: 1644700761

In a Terminal.app window, enter command:

date -r 1644700761

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My interest, is helping you to reduce the mystery of the Mac.

Helping you, to get a bit more of command over the fate of your bookmarks – you being the troubleshooter who knows, now, that you need to routinely, manually export backups of your bookmarks (mobile device, desktop computer, laptop computer, etc.).

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Final note. Using BBEdit, you can compare two bookmarks.html files, for example, and see their differences (if any).

[toddmoore]

“ls -aln” Terminal Result

total 88

drwxr-xr-x+ 36 501 20 1152 Feb 13 14:02 .

drwxr-xr-x 6 0 80 192 Feb 6 16:22 …

-rw-------+ 1 501 20 7 Nov 13 06:11 .CFUserTextEncoding

-rw-r–r–@ 1 501 20 26628 Feb 13 13:00 .DS_Store

-rw-r–r–+ 1 501 20 35 Apr 3 2016 .Maelstrom-data

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 501 20 96 Jun 8 2017 .STEP

drwxr-xr-x@ 3 501 20 96 May 25 2018 .TemporaryItems

drwx------+ 54 501 20 1728 Feb 13 13:15 .Trash

-rw-r–r–@ 1 501 20 295 May 25 2018 .apdisk

-rw-r–r–+ 1 501 20 2900 Jan 25 18:01 .bash_history

drwx------+ 33 501 20 1056 Feb 13 19:30 .bash_sessions

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 501 20 96 Dec 24 2020 .cache

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 501 20 192 Dec 20 12:25 .config

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 501 20 96 May 23 2015 .cups

drwxr-xr-x+ 15 501 20 480 Dec 20 12:26 .dropbox

drwxr-xr-x+ 2 501 20 64 Jul 22 2018 .fermcalc

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 501 20 96 Jul 6 2016 .mono

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 501 20 96 Oct 31 00:44 .oracle_jre_usage

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 501 20 96 Dec 15 2019 .stepbible

drwxr-xr-x+ 2 501 20 64 Nov 1 2018 .wapi

drwxr-xr-x+ 2 501 20 64 Jul 11 2019 .zoomus

drwx------+ 4 501 20 128 Oct 28 13:40 Applications

drwxr-xr-x+ 4 501 20 128 Oct 2 2020 Calibre Library

drwx------@ 26 501 20 832 Feb 13 13:20 Desktop

drwx------@ 36 501 20 1152 Jan 8 06:59 Documents

drwx------+ 1023 501 20 32736 Feb 13 14:46 Downloads

drwxr-xr-x@ 15 501 20 480 Nov 4 10:48 Dropbox

drwxr-xr-x@ 14 501 20 448 Dec 16 14:03 Google Drive

drwx------+ 113 501 20 3616 Dec 19 13:54 Library

drwx------+ 17 501 20 544 Oct 27 17:44 Movies

drwx------+ 18 501 20 576 Nov 16 08:50 Music

drwxrwxrwx 6 0 20 192 Jan 30 11:58 OLMConverter

drwx------+ 9 501 20 288 Dec 25 2020 Pictures

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 501 20 192 Dec 27 2017 Public

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 501 20 96 Oct 27 14:47 Sites

drwx------+ 6 501 20 192 Jan 29 08:02 iCloud Drive (Archive)

ls -al Terminal Result (username omitted in same column as root)

total 88

drwxr-xr-x+ 36 staff 1152 Feb 13 21:27 .

drwxr-xr-x 6 root admin 192 Feb 6 16:22 …

-rw-------+ 1 staff 7 Nov 13 06:11 .CFUserTextEncoding

-rw-r–r–@ 1 staff 26628 Feb 13 21:28 .DS_Store

-rw-r–r–+ 1 staff 35 Apr 3 2016 .Maelstrom-data

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 staff 96 Jun 8 2017 .STEP

drwxr-xr-x@ 3 staff 96 May 25 2018 .TemporaryItems

drwx------+ 73 staff 2336 Feb 13 21:28 .Trash

-rw-r–r–@ 1 staff 295 May 25 2018 .apdisk

-rw-r–r–+ 1 staff 3479 Feb 13 21:24 .bash_history

drwx------+ 15 staff 480 Feb 13 21:29 .bash_sessions

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 staff 96 Dec 24 2020 .cache

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 staff 192 Dec 20 12:25 .config

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 staff 96 May 23 2015 .cups

drwxr-xr-x+ 15 staff 480 Dec 20 12:26 .dropbox

drwxr-xr-x+ 2 staff 64 Jul 22 2018 .fermcalc

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 staff 96 Jul 6 2016 .mono

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 staff 96 Oct 31 00:44 .oracle_jre_usage

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 staff 96 Dec 15 2019 .stepbible

drwxr-xr-x+ 2 staff 64 Nov 1 2018 .wapi

drwxr-xr-x+ 2 staff 64 Jul 11 2019 .zoomus

drwx------+ 4 staff 128 Oct 28 13:40 Applications

drwxr-xr-x+ 4 staff 128 Oct 2 2020 Calibre Library

drwx------@ 27 staff 864 Feb 13 21:54 Desktop

drwx------@ 36 staff 1152 Jan 8 06:59 Documents

drwx------+ 1023 staff 32736 Feb 13 14:46 Downloads

drwxr-xr-x@ 15 staff 480 Nov 4 10:48 Dropbox

drwxr-xr-x@ 14 staff 448 Dec 16 14:03 Google Drive

drwx------+ 113 staff 3616 Dec 19 13:54 Library

drwx------+ 17 staff 544 Oct 27 17:44 Movies

drwx------+ 18 staff 576 Nov 16 08:50 Music

drwx------@ 7 staff 224 Feb 13 21:27 OneDrive

drwx------+ 9 staff 288 Dec 25 2020 Pictures

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 staff 192 Dec 27 2017 Public

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 staff 96 Oct 27 14:47 Sites

drwx------+ 6 staff 192 Jan 29 08:02 iCloud Drive (Archive)

dscl . -list /Users UniqueID | egrep -v ‘_|root|nobody|daemon’

This above command did not work. Not sure why.

-bash: root: command not found

-bash: nobody: command not found

-bash: daemon’: command not found

So I used this command instead: dscl . list /Users | grep -v ‘_’ (and, just in case, also this command: dscl . -list /Users | egrep -v ‘_’)

For either the above alternative commands, here are the results

(Note: except from here on I substituted “username” for my actual username.)

com.malwarebytes.mbam.nobody

daemon

nobody

root

username

Interesting that even though I did un-install Malwarebytes, I see at least evidence of it. Not sure if/how to get rid of it.

At first did not understand that the change directory command needed a follow up “ls -al” command. But I think I catch the drift:

cd /Users/username/Library/Application\ Support/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser/Default

ls -al

total 163520

drwxr-xr-x@ 92 username staff 2944 Feb 14 05:57 .

drwxr-xr-x+ 62 username staff 1984 Feb 14 05:54 …

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 14340 Feb 14 05:17 .DS_Store

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 425300 Mar 12 2020 .com.brave.Browser.7BpIsR

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 32768 Oct 22 11:25 Affiliation Database

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Oct 22 11:25 Affiliation Database-journal

drwxr-xr-x@ 8 username staff 256 Dec 10 2019 Articles

drwxr-xr-x@ 5 username staff 160 Dec 19 13:57 AutofillStrikeDatabase

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 67577 Dec 18 09:50 Bookmarks

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 67577 Feb 14 05:08 Bookmarks.bak

drwxr-xr-x@ 5 username staff 160 Dec 19 13:57 BudgetDatabase

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 1900544 Feb 13 14:06 Cookies

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 13 14:06 Cookies-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 60 Nov 21 11:32 Custom Dictionary.txt

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 51 Nov 21 11:32 Custom Dictionary.txt.backup

drwxr-xr-x@ 4 username staff 128 Jul 25 2021 Download Service

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 140 Dec 16 16:53 DownloadMetadata

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 28672 Feb 13 14:05 Extension Cookies

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 13 14:05 Extension Cookies-journal

drwxr-xr-x@ 8 username staff 256 Dec 20 05:30 Extension Rules

drwxr-xr-x@ 8 username staff 256 Dec 19 13:56 Extension Scripts

drwxr-xr-x@ 17 username staff 544 Feb 11 16:40 Extension State

drwxr-xr-x@ 10 username staff 320 Dec 20 05:30 Extensions

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 16842752 Feb 14 05:30 Favicons

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 14 05:30 Favicons-journal

drwxr-xr-x@ 4 username staff 128 Apr 23 2021 Feature Engagement Tracker

drwxr-xr-x@ 138 username staff 4416 Feb 13 13:12 File System

drwxr-xr-x@ 3 username staff 96 Sep 20 2019 GCM Store

drwxr-xr-x@ 7 username staff 224 Mar 23 2019 GPUCache

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 29327360 Feb 14 05:30 History

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 8720 Feb 14 05:31 History-journal

drwxr-xr-x@ 425 username staff 13600 Feb 13 13:12 IndexedDB

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Apr 23 2021 LOCK

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 13 21:36 LOG

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Dec 19 13:50 LOG.old

drwxr-xr-x@ 14 username staff 448 Nov 30 12:09 Local Extension Settings

drwxr-xr-x@ 3 username staff 96 Mar 23 2019 Local Storage

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 688128 Feb 13 11:02 Login Data

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 45056 Sep 30 16:03 Login Data For Account

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Sep 30 16:03 Login Data For Account-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 13 11:02 Login Data-journal

drwxr-xr-x@ 3 username staff 96 Mar 23 2019 Managed Extension Settings

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 229376 Jul 25 2021 Media History

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Jul 25 2021 Media History-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 1245184 Feb 14 05:30 Network Action Predictor

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 14 05:30 Network Action Predictor-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 134330 Dec 20 10:03 Network Persistent State

drwxr-xr-x@ 2 username staff 64 Apr 20 2021 Pepper Data

drwxr-xr-x@ 8 username staff 256 Dec 19 13:56 Platform Notifications

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 485993 Dec 20 10:03 Preferences

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 33 Mar 8 2021 PreferredApps

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 294912 Feb 14 05:54 QuotaManager

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 14 05:54 QuotaManager-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 164 Mar 23 2019 README

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 950272 Feb 14 05:30 Reporting and NEL

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 14 05:30 Reporting and NEL-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 28672 Nov 20 06:48 Safe Browsing Cookies

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Nov 20 06:48 Safe Browsing Cookies-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 40200 Dec 20 05:30 Secure Preferences

drwxr-xr-x@ 6 username staff 192 Dec 20 12:25 Service Worker

drwxr-xr-x@ 19 username staff 608 Feb 14 05:05 Session Storage

drwxr-xr-x@ 14 username staff 448 Feb 14 05:32 Sessions

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 360448 Feb 14 05:21 Shortcuts

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 14 05:21 Shortcuts-journal

drwxr-xr-x@ 8 username staff 256 Dec 19 13:56 Site Characteristics Database

drwxr-xr-x@ 2 username staff 64 Oct 28 17:15 Sync App Settings

drwxr-xr-x@ 3 username staff 96 Mar 23 2019 Sync Data

drwxr-xr-x@ 6 username staff 192 Oct 28 17:15 Sync Extension Settings

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 20480 Feb 14 00:25 Top Sites

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 14 00:25 Top Sites-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 491372 Dec 20 09:37 TransportSecurity

drwxr-xr-x@ 5 username staff 160 Dec 19 20:20 VideoDecodeStats

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 524192 Feb 14 05:29 Visited Links

drwxr-xr-x@ 4 username staff 128 Mar 5 2021 Web Applications

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 753664 Feb 14 05:30 Web Data

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Feb 14 05:30 Web Data-journal

drwxr-xr-x@ 3 username staff 96 Nov 21 2020 ads_service

drwxr-xr-x@ 4 username staff 128 Feb 13 21:36 blob_storage

drwxr-xr-x@ 5 username staff 160 Dec 19 13:56 coupon_db

drwxr-xr-x@ 44 username staff 1408 Feb 13 21:36 data_reduction_proxy_leveldb

drwxr-xr-x@ 19 username staff 608 Feb 11 20:49 databases

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 16384 Oct 26 2019 heavy_ad_intervention_opt_out.db

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Oct 26 2019 heavy_ad_intervention_opt_out.db-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 1469 Jul 15 2020 ledger_state

drwxr-xr-x@ 5 username staff 160 Dec 19 13:57 optimization_guide_hint_cache_store

drwxr-xr-x@ 5 username staff 160 Dec 19 13:57 optimization_guide_model_and_features_store

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Mar 23 2019 page_load_capping_opt_out.db-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 29097984 Mar 5 2021 publisher_info_db

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 0 Mar 5 2021 publisher_info_db-journal

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 360 Dec 15 2019 publisher_state

drwxr-xr-x@ 2 username staff 64 Feb 7 2021 session_profiles

drwxr-xr-x@ 12 username staff 384 Jan 18 13:41 shared_proto_db

Note: Just in case it is relevant, the following commands asked my permission for access:

cd ~/Desktop
ls -al

total 848416

drwx------@ 28 username staff 896 Feb 14 05:19 .

drwxr-xr-x+ 36 username staff 1152 Feb 13 21:27 …

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 18436 Feb 14 05:19 .DS_Store

-rw-r–r–+ 1 username staff 0 Oct 27 14:47 .localized

drwxr-xr-x+ 13 username staff 416 Aug 15 2021 .picasaoriginals

drwxr-xr-x+ 22 username staff 704 Dec 23 15:04 Covid Related

drwxr-xr-x+ 16 username staff 512 Feb 10 15:56 Finances

drwxr-xr-x+ 27 username staff 864 Feb 2 14:26 Home Improvement

drwxr-xr-x 8 username staff 256 Feb 13 20:11 Issues

drwxr-xr-x+ 192 username staff 6144 Feb 11 16:56 Misc

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 username staff 192 Feb 11 08:36 Orders

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 1159242 Feb 13 21:47 Screen Shot 2022-02-13 at 9.47.50 PM.png

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 1586269 Feb 13 21:54 Screen Shot 2022-02-13 at 9.54.31 PM.png

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 1589839 Feb 14 05:19 Screen Shot 2022-02-14 at 5.18.57 AM.png

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 268847760 Feb 3 11:58 To Catch a Mouse.mov

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 161124149 Feb 11 17:06 _lordofspirits_los_2022-02-10.mp3

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 165 Mar 11 2020 ~$Synthetic Oil Specs.xlsx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Sep 17 18:03 ~$X vs MT Additions in 1Samuel 16-19.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Sep 17 18:24 ~$alm 77.13 Eusebius Commentary_Gohl.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Aug 30 00:10 ~$almi Cum Odis.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Jul 14 2020 ~$d is Moving.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Oct 10 08:22 ~$e Biblical Story of the Eucharist.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Jan 16 13:50 ~$io - Stan copy.doc

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Apr 6 2021 ~$kan Structures.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Dec 3 19:05 ~$mmercial Upright Vacuums_eVacuum.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Aug 31 2019 ~$n Check List.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Sep 17 18:23 ~$sebius Commentary on Psalm 77.13.docx

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 162 Aug 28 16:13 ~$tline of LXX vs MT Additions in 1Samuel 16-19.docx

cd ~/Documents
ls -al

total 40

drwx------@ 36 username staff 1152 Jan 8 06:59 .

drwxr-xr-x+ 36 username staff 1152 Feb 13 21:27 …

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 18436 Jan 29 08:02 .DS_Store

-rw-r–r–+ 1 username staff 0 Oct 27 14:47 .localized

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 username staff 192 Mar 14 2020 23andMe

drwxr-xr-x+ 19 username staff 608 Sep 27 17:52 Accordance Files

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 username staff 96 Aug 14 2021 Apowersoft

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 username staff 192 May 21 2015 AppleWorks User Data

drwxr-xr-x+ 32 username staff 1024 Jun 11 2021 Bible

drwxr-xr-x+ 10 username staff 320 Oct 28 19:12 Calibre Library

drwxr-xr-x+ 10 username staff 320 Oct 28 19:12 ChairGun4

drwxr-xr-x+ 11 username staff 352 Nov 19 2020 Digital Editions

drwxr-xr-x+ 119 username staff 3808 Oct 11 10:06 Finances

drwxr-xr-x+ 54 username staff 1728 May 21 2015 Font stuff

drwxr-xr-x+ 7 username staff 224 Feb 14 2016 Geneaology

drwxr-xr-x+ 12 username staff 384 Jul 11 2019 Google Drive files

drwxr-xr-x+ 13 username staff 416 May 21 2015 GraphicConverter

drwxr-xr-x+ 7 username staff 224 Oct 28 19:14 Home Page

drwxr-xr-x+ 7 username staff 224 May 21 2015 Invoices

drwxr-xr-x+ 8 username staff 256 May 21 2015 Microsoft Office

drwxr-xr-x+ 10 username staff 320 Oct 5 2017 Microsoft User Data

drwxr-xr-x+ 72 username staff 2304 Jan 31 12:03 Misc

drwxr-xr-x+ 35 username staff 1120 Oct 28 19:12 My Kindle Content

drwxr-xr-x+ 5 username staff 160 May 21 2015 Office Projects

lrwxr-xr-x 1 username staff 55 Jan 8 06:59 OneDrive → /Users/username/Library/CloudStorage/OneDrive-Personal

drwxr-xr-x+ 242 username staff 7744 Jan 2 17:12 Preferences

drwxr-xr-x+ 5 username staff 160 Oct 28 19:12 Quicken Backup Folder

drwxr-xr-x+ 3 username staff 96 Oct 7 2020 RDC Connections

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 username staff 192 Oct 28 19:12 Scrivener Projects

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 username staff 192 Dec 17 20:54 Shared

drwxr-xr-x+ 4 username staff 128 May 21 2015 Sound Studio

drwxr-xr-x+ 70 username staff 2240 Jul 12 2018 Temp

drwxr-xr-x 2 username staff 64 Dec 20 13:46 Test

drwxr-xr-x+ 19 username staff 608 Sep 25 18:36 Wine

drwxr-xr-x+ 4 username staff 128 Sep 30 14:37 Zoom

drwxr-xr-x+ 18 username staff 576 May 21 2015 iTunes

cd ~/Public
ls -al

total 24

drwxr-xr-x+ 6 username staff 192 Dec 27 2017 .

drwxr-xr-x+ 36 username staff 1152 Feb 13 21:27 …

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 8196 Dec 20 12:26 .DS_Store

-rw-r–r–+ 1 username staff 0 May 20 2015 .com.apple.timemachine.supported

-rw-r–r–+ 1 username staff 0 May 20 2015 .localized

drwx-wx-wx+ 3 username staff 96 May 20 2015 Drop Box

Thanks for the link to the upgraded BBedit. I did at least use it to open and explore my exported bookmarks folder.

You asked if Apple Support ran thru a process like Recovery mode. Yes. However, this was in Sept and although I recall using the utilities with phone support, the other guidance on that link does not look familiar.

Lastly, I have attached a screenshot of a typical “get info” window, just in case you wish to see one bit of evidence of my permissions issue (the extra “everyone/custom” that can be found pervasively in files existing when the Terminal command issued).

[toddmoore]

Forgot the attachment ;>)

[289wk]

Toddmoore,

Received and reviewing. I cleaned up the first command (ls -aln) result for “/Users/username/” directory:

BTW, when in the Terminal.app window, you wonder, What directory is this in? Type at the prompt: “pwd” (no quotes).

The permissions for “/Users/username/” do NOT look to be a problem.

If you want to ease permissions just a bit, for the Desktop folder and its contents . . . you could:

cd /Users/username/Desktop
sudo chmod -R 750 .
(note the trailing dot aka period character)

That setting of permissions (to 750 aka rwxr-x—), applies to the parent folder:

/Users/username/Desktop

. . . and all the files that you see in the Desktop window.

You will be prompted for your password (“sudo” is why you are prompted), for setting those permissions. The change of permissions will be

• from “drwx------@” (700)
• to “drwxr-x—@” (750, gives a bit more flexibility to group “staff”)

Quit your Terminal.app and then open the app again. Type in the new Terminal.app window:

cd ~/Desktop

Were you prompted for your password, again?

Either way, now, when you work on or maneuver items on the Desktop (in its window), there should be a bit less fuss.

But . . . the Mac OS can be finicky. On occasions, the Mac OS might restore a reserved parent folder itself (Desktop, Documents, and others qualify), to a more restricted permissions setting that the Apple thinks is best for the average customer. And some folders (aka directories) have permissions that you cannot alter without a major struggle.

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Re Malwarebytes un-installed . . .

Quit everything on the Mac.

Run the Malwarebytes un-installer again, if you can. (Might require a Restart of the Mac?)

Go to your

/Users/username/Library/Preferences

folder and look for an item named as, or similarly named as:

com.malwarebytes.something

If you find that item, move it to the Trash.

Do the same, for folders:

/Users/username/Library/Caches
/Users/username/Library/Containers

Next, look for any “malwarebytes” thing, here:

/Users/username/Library/LaunchAgents

and move it to the Trash.

Same for the following three directories within the System level, Library directory:

/Library/Application Support/
/Library/LaunchAgents/
/Library/LaunchDaemons/

Do not [yet] empty the Trash.

Restart the Mac.

The user:

/Users/com.malwarebytes.mbam.nobody

. . . might / will remain, but with a little less steam.

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Re Bookmarks and Bookmarks.bak files

In Brave Browser Settings >> Appearance, set the “Show bookmarks” switch to be Disabled (OFF).

In Brave Browser Settings >> Appearance, set the “Always show bookmarks on a new tab page” switch to be Disabled (OFF).

Clear as much of the cache, cookies, site data, and history as you can:

brave://settings/clearBrowserData

Maybe Disable the keeping / storing of History . . . until after this attempt to fix things.

Quit everything and Restart the Mac.

The Bookmarks and Bookmarks.bak files – their permissions seem to be OK; but more on that, later.

Both files show, based upon the size values - in the results you provided:

-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 67577 Dec 18 09:50 Bookmarks
-rw-r–r–@ 1 username staff 67577 Feb 14 05:08 Bookmarks.bak

. . . that they contain a large list of bookmarks. BUT, the date for the Bookmarks file, has not changed in a long time. (Yet, Brave Browser continues to do its duty and create the backup file, Bookmarks.bak.)

Please drag-copy both Bookmarks files to your Mac Desktop.

Next, in the Finder, go to the “BraveSoftware” folder at:

/Users/username/Library/Application Support/BraveSoftware

and select that folder with your mouse arrow.

In the Finder > File menu . . . select the Compress . . . function for that folder. The function in the menu might say “Compress ‘BraveSoftware’”

A .zip compressed version of the BraveSoftware folder will eventually be produced. You might rename it:

“20220214_Monday_BraveSoftware_bkup.zip”

About Compress:

Mac OS X: Controlling Compressed Files – The Mac Observer

Start Brave Browser, and use the “Export bookmarks” function of the Brave Browser Bookmarks Manager. That will create a “bookmarks.html” file . . . and arrange for that file to be on the Desktop – where you can also rename it (date, etc.).

Quit Brave Browser and using the Finder, locate both Bookmarks files in the "Default’ folder:

/Users/username/Library/Application Support/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser/Default

. . . and move the two files to the Trash.

Start Brave Browser and use the Bookmarks Manager to “Import bookmarks” – the “bookmarks.html” file (however you renamed it).

Keep the “Default” folder window open.

In a Terminal.app window, cd to

/Users/username/Library/Application Support/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser/Default

. . . and run command:

ls -al | grep -i book

The vertical character " | " is called a pipe – you are actually piping together, two commands in sequence. The grep command, is limiting the result to any item with the “book” string of characters in its name.

Note the date time and size of the two Bookmarks files.

In Brave Browser, go to some website and create a new bookmark entry. Double-check with another "ls . . . " command, to see if the date time changes. Also, you could, in the Finder, do a Get Info on the file(s).

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Sometimes, the Mac OS or another process, requires increased file and folder restrictions. Some process will not proceed, if it finds that permissions of a file or folder, are too relaxed.

Your Bookmarks files show each has file permissions:

-rw-r–r-- (644 - you have Read for group and Read for everybody)

While my Bookmarks files each show:

-rw------- (600 - Read and Write for owner only)

You could test the file permissions, by setting them via the Finder and Get Info, or setting them via the Terminal.app window command line:

cd /Users/username/Library/Application\ Support/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser/Default

(Note that the backslash character escapes the space between “Application” and “Support”.)

When in the Default folder (remember, that you can double-check by using the “pwd” (no quotes) command), then:

sudo chmod 600 Bookmarks
sudo chmod 600 Bookmarks.bak

And double-check your work, with command:

ls -al | grep -i book

If that does not solve the Bookmarks issue, then return the permissions to what you originally found:

sudo chmod 644 Bookmarks
sudo chmod 644 Bookmarks.bak

Let me know.

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PS. You (being the “username”) and user ID 501 and mostly group “staff” . . . is all good.

[toddmoore]

I uninstalled Brave and then re-installed. I then re-imported my bookmarks. This seems to have resolved the issue such that I can now delete and add bookmarks.

However, a more annoying issue has resulted: Brave is not saving passwords in the browser password manager.

This seems to be an issue encountered in 20219 and 2020 (e.g. #6776 https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/6776).

Brave support has closed those issues - but I never saw a resolution. Do you have one? Or do I need to open a new issue?

Thank you.

Todd Moore

[toddmoore]

Also, what happened to the option to install the YouTube application? I fished the old one out of the trash, but all it does is open YouTube in Brave - and it immediately disappears (rather than stay open as a standalone app in my dock area). Do you have a working app I can download?

[289wk]

Todd Moore,

In a new Terminal.app window, enter:

cd ~/Library/Application\ Support/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser/Default/

That command should appear as:

Next, enter:

ls -n Login\ *

That command should appear as:

Please post a screenshot of the result of that command, because I need to see the permissions for the “Login . . .” items.

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Next, enter:

ls -n Bookmark*

That command should appear as:

Please post a screenshot of the result of that command, because I need to see the permissions for the “Bookmarks . . .” items.

Thanks.

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BTW, do you have any extensions installed?

BTW2, are you using Brave Browser Sync – between your Mac and a handheld device, for example?

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Tacking on a couple links here . . .

The following is a short-string URL address that substitutes for a very long URL address at GitHub > Brave . . . listing the Issues that mention “Password Manager”.

“https://tinyurl.com/4r28u92y”

I am including that, here, for anybody who wonders about the development of the Password Manager, in addition to problems encountered.

The next item, you have seen before, but I am placing it here, for any passers-by, who are interested.

How do I use the built-in password manager?

[289wk]

@toddmoore

the option to install the YouTube application

Still looking for info.

[toddmoore]

Terminal Command Results:

Last login: Thu Feb 17 08:31:34 on console

The default interactive shell is now zsh.

To update your account to use zsh, please run chsh -s /bin/zsh.

For more details, please visit https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208050.

username16Pro:~ username$ cd ~/Library/Application\ Support/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser/Default/

username16Pro:Default username$ ls -n Login\ *

-rw-------@ 1 501 20 40960 Feb 17 21:21 Login Data

-rw-------@ 1 501 20 40960 Feb 17 08:04 Login Data For Account

-rw-------@ 1 501 20 0 Feb 17 08:04 Login Data For Account-journal

-rw-------@ 1 501 20 0 Feb 17 21:21 Login Data-journal

username16Pro:Default username$

[289wk]

toddmoore,

Permissions (they are in numerical (aka octal?) form, 600) for the Login * items, look good. Keep an eye on the Login items’ date time info – in order to monitor which of those changes -vs- what seems to be stuck (might be a clue).

@Mattches at Brave Support, is to whom, you ought to write about your password(s) concern(s).

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Issues and Topics at Brave Community, mentioning “password manag”

https://community.brave.com/search?q=password%20manag%20order%3Alatest"

[toddmoore]

I tried to communicate my “password” issue (see thread) with @Mattches at Brave Support as you suggested.

However, as far as I can tell, this person did not respond back. I am manually using my 1Password app now for quite some time – lots of password typing!

As I said, Brave asks if I want to save a password, I say yes, but it does not actually save any password.

Can you or someone at Brave please assist me?

[289wk]

@toddmoore ,

What is your Mac computer model?

Does you Mac use an Intel or Apple M1 CPU?

If you have your Bookmarks manually backed up, and your Passwords are being managed by 1Password, can you remove the existing installation of Brave Browser, including its BraveSoftware folder:

~/Library/Application Support/BraveSoftware

and including the cache folder:

~Library/Caches/BraveSoftware ?

Because, it may help, to install a fresh, updated Brave Browser for Mac OS version from:

“https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/releases/tag/v1.36.111”

One of these – try the .pkg of whichever applies, re your Mac CPU:

“arm64” are the Apple M1 chip.

I am assuming that your backed up Bookmarks – a copy, is safely in a location out of the path of the installation. And, you also have backed up the 1Password data, to a safe location.

1Password data is usually within (for example):

~/Library/Application Support/1Password

You can .zip compress that 1Password folder, and / or drag-copy the .zip compressed result, or the folder, to a safe location.

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@Mattches , @toddmoore has requested your help. Thanks.

[toddmoore]

Thank you for your quick reply.

Mac computer model - MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021)

Chip - Apple M1 Pro

I uninstalled Brave both by deleting the folders you specified, then using Mac Cleaner.

After I re-installed the arm64 pkg, the Brave would still not save passwords.

[289wk]

@toddmoore ,

Something not yet tried: Some Mac M1 users, after installing Brave Browser, have Quit the application, and then deleted the BraveSoftware folder:

~/Library/Application Support/BraveSoftware

Start up Brave Browser . . . and test again.

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There is a Brave URL:

brave://password-manager-internals/

That you might use – BUT, BEFORE that, read:

“Captured password manager logs are listed below. Logs are cleared and no longer captured when all password-manager-internals pages are closed.”

That means, that there may be logs in addition to the standard response for the Brave URL used.

What I get as a standard response (to the Brave URL), on my older Mac . . . so you have a reference . . . but I would expect to see more info – from your password-internals’ logs that might show us something:

Captured password manager logs are listed below. Logs are cleared and no longer captured when all password-manager-internals pages are closed.
Version: 99.1.36.111 (official)
Revision: d537ec02474b5afe23684e7963d538896c63ac77-refs/branch-heads/4844@{#875}
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_12_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/99.0.4844.51 Safari/537.36
App Locale: en-US
Variations:
AdRewardsStudy:NextPaymentDay
AdServingStudy:MaximumAdNotificationsPerDay=100/MaximumInlineContentAdsPerHour=8/MaximumInlineContentAdsPerDay=40
AdvertiserSplitTestStudy:GroupA
BraveAds.FrequencyCappingStudy:ExcludeAdIfWithinTimeWindow=0h
BraveAds.UserActivityStudy:Triggers=EMPTY/Threshold=0.0/IdleTimeThreshold=5
BraveDebounceStudy:Enabled
ConversionsStudy:NewDefaultPattern
Default1pBlockingStudy:Disabled
EphemeralStorageStudy:Enabled
ExtendedVariationsSafeMode4:Default4
ForceDisableBlinkFeatures:Enabled
MacCoreLocationBackendStudy:Enabled
NativeCosmeticFilteringStudy:Enabled
NavigationThreadingOptimizationsCompat:Disabled
PartitionBlinkMemoryCacheStudy:Enabled
PartitionConnectionsByNetworkIsolationKeyStudy:Enabled
PermissionLifetimeReleaseStudy:Enabled
RequestAdsEnabledApiStudy:Enabled

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PS. I do not use the Brave Browser Password Manager.

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Another possibility . . .

Close all Brave Browser windows, and Quit Brave Browser. Then start Brave Browser and in a New Window, go to

Brave Browser > Settings > Get started > On startup . . . “Continue where you left off”
aka:
brave://settings/?search=Continue+where+you+left+off

. . . and adjust the settings to (about:blank) as shown;

IOW, trying to have a pristine New Window or New Private Window in which to visit a website and test.

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Found:

Brave is not saving passwords using the in-browser password manager

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The stored username and password data is in the “Login Data” folder:

/Users/[username]/Library/Application Support/BraveSoftware/Brave-Browser/Default/Login Data

There is an application – “DB Browser for SQLite” – that you can download:

“https://sqlitebrowser.org/”

“https://sqlitebrowser.org/dl/”

and install on your Mac. When you run it, into the large left-hand pane . . . you can drag a copy of your “Login Data” file (the copy of which, you prevoiusly drag-copied to your Mac Desktop).

Then you can use the Database Structure tab, to view the file structure, and use the Browse Data tab, to view entries (of course my Mac has no entries):

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DiagnosticReports

/Users/[username]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

Open that folder and look for crash reports that begin with “Brave Browser_” (if any).

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[toddmoore]

Here is the Brave URL result:

Captured password manager logs are listed below. Logs are cleared and no longer captured when all password-manager-internals pages are closed.

[Mattches]

@toddmoore,
Sorry — there is a lot of information being thrown around here. Is the issue you’re now encountering that you’re unable to save passwords in the browser or is it bookmarks?

[toddmoore]

Hello Matches - To clarify, I formerly had a Bookmarks issue that was resolved. However, another, Password issued resulted. Brave asks to save passwords, I reply yes, but it does not save any passwords. As 289wk suggested, I did re-install Brave. I also deleted the BraveSoftware folder. I did reply with a copy my Password Manage Internals as requested. I also adjusted my settings to use of “about:blank.” I installed DB Browser for SQLite and will attach a screenshot of the database structure of my Login Data (which is the only view I understood from the guidance provided). I also checked diagnostic reports but saw no Brave crash reports. This password issue is a deal breaker for me - constantly having to manually input passwords that should be saved and constantly needing 2-step verification for sites where my browser should have been remembered. Hoping since this has occurred in the past with other users, Brave support will be able to come through on this issue now.