This is an elaborate reply and a statement to why this discussion here is completely unfruitful due to a single user’s incessant dismissive and hypocritical remarks.
Containers are important for privacy reasons to isolate cookies, I think we all know that. We also know that profiles are not a viable alternative, and suggesting profiles as an alternative is inane because the only similarity between containers (as implemented in Firefox) and profiles is that cookie isolation (maybe a few other things too, but not important here.).
“In retrospect, I feel like the automated Brave privacy protections already fulfill 90% of what I’d get from Containers, without the overhead of managing them. I could be wrong… I do have a few separate profiles still though, but this is because in Brave I can install different extension sets into different profiles… In some ways this is actually better than FF + Containers… Doesn’t solve the problem of automatically opening a given site in the ‘right’ profile but small price to pay for all the benefits. YMMV though.”
“I’m going to go out on a limb here and say, I don’t think containers are necessary at this point… you’ll see there’s a ton of protections enabled all the time, essentially automated, without the human cost and overhead of managing containers.”
“Brave does site containerization for you already, automatically, without the baggage of manual container management.”
‘better’,‘not necessary’, and judgements from limited personal experience (which is clearly not aligning with a lot of other users) does not help in a conversation. A lot of us are not writers/speakers and putting together all that we know/want in a small forum post is rather difficult. When we do put it in, immediately dismissing this stops fruitful discussions and only makes this forum more toxic!
Cross-site cooking blocking is something firefox also does without containers, and Brave does not “CONTAINERIZE” automatically!
“Containers do not ‘contain’ your extensions. So for instance, if you use something like ‘Honey’ for shopping, this extension also has access to your other, potentially more sensitive containers.”
“And after I committed myself to a several-month period of kicking the tires with Brave I would never go back to the hassle of fiddling with Containers. “Letting go” has been great.”
“ is that many of the use cases for Containers can be satisfied automatically with Brave’s built-in features without the added overhead of managing those features”
Brave’s built-in privacy features do not fullfil what containers do. Most of what Brave does is something that can be easily achieved through certain extensions and settings changes in Firefox, and a lot of users do do these by default.
Your use of containers might have been easily translated into Brave, but assuming everybody else’s does too is just plain narcissistic.
Further, a person with even an iota of sense would disable Honey when not in use or not use such privacy-invasive extensions!
“I’m not disagreeing with any of your points per se, I just want to make sure it’s clear that Chrom*(i.e., Brave) ‘profiles’ do in fact achieve the multiple-logins capability. The difference is that they’re not in the same window.”
“you actually wouldn’t want the FF URL pattern matching because you’d have to keep overriding it.”
You see the incongruity in the statement right?
URL pattern matching is something I have seldom overriden and claiming someone has to keep doing is not true.
“But being completely ignorant of another means to that end, and attempting to shout down someone who points it out, isn’t helping people. At least here you as an individual can make a choice.”
Another example of absolute hypocrisy!
This user has put forth ‘profiles’ as an alternative for ‘containers’ almost with the same vigour as suggesting replacement . I understand they did not suggest that profiles replace containers, but one could quite easily see that repeatedly insisting that the capabilities/implementations of ‘profiles’ in a workflow could be the same or be similar to that of containers can be construed as saying ‘profiles’ do what ‘containers’ do. This is not a strawman argument, this is reasonable comprehension.
I’m just saying, you’ve said what you wanted to say more than once. Repeating the same thing over and over again everytime someone comes forward with a their workflow which might be in need of containers is just annoying and does not push this discussion forward. The only user in this discussion making this discussion toxic is you!