see the start menu aswell
Hmm, maybe you and everyone else not happy about Windows 7 and 8 ending can get together and make a Custom OS then. Perhaps putting your collective minds together, you might even be able to add the Charms capability and all that some were saying they missed. Even adjust the Start menu to have more options, such as to appear as if Windows 7 or 8.
Or, you know, maybe see if people like the group that made the Custom OS could help design something. Might be pretty neat to see.
In fact, if theirs works and you like it, is there a reason why you wouldn’t want to use it?
And yeah, like you said, you can find guides for it. Like at https://youtu.be/U-IFwwploXg
Alright, the point of requesting a custom OS is because im curious to see what brave software Inc could come up something as “NEW” as i really like the unique design looks of brave browser and also the brave rewards ui even though i dont use that as its not supported in India.
If people can always supply me alternatives which im already aware of then i could just go on with my life with those but the point is, i like brave browser and the company’s theme for privacy in mind and going hard on privacy protecting internet browser fight feels good to see and being part of it.
however, i just thought this company’s DNA shouldn’t be limited just to browsers but to see it expand, evolve and improve it’s versatility a whole lot… As you might be aware, if people wants to no longer be part of Microsoft, then they mostly have only Linux for PC. So focusing on establishing Brave OS will also serve as an greater advertising/alternative which comes from well known company which offers almost all of the features, functions same as win 11 (as the brave OS will be based on Win 11).
These are some reference from the above shown ReviOS and phoenix lite OS
With Indie based custom OS projects like the above shown references, while its too damn impressive, we can’t really predict on how longer it will be supported as the team behind it can announce it retirement anytime where once it got retired, we need to go back to stock version of Microsoft again(The problem which i see is that, i dont want to love something and someone taking away something from me which i love really depresses me as this is already happening with win 8.1) But if well established companies like brave were behind any custom OS based projects or even better, if they make one themselves, it will give the confidence to use it without hesitation, as the company won’t be going anywhere and continue to thrive in future.
Brave might not have enough manpower at the moment, but hopefully they have enough funds to offer jobs for these smart minds behind these custom OSes… Some of these OSes are done by less than 30 people,not sure though. So by hiring this people, brave will not only succeed in creating fully secured private internet browser but also in fully private operating system.
it would be simple to criticize me or offer excuse by supplying alternatives but doing both of these won’t help a company to expand or evolve. if it was only about me, then i could go and install these custom OSes and happily enjoy my life BUT its about the curiosity to see what Brave can offer and the feeling of love to see a company which you love evolve and reaching new level of heights, that’s the reason why we join a community and make efforts to create posts, Thanks.
@scavxo Yeah, you have some interesting thoughts and a neat perspective. I also appreciate how you’re not getting angry and just accusing. Instead just trying to think of solutions and making suggestions. I know I’ll definitely be passing on ideas. However, there’s also a lot that I’m going to have to learn, such as legalities and all. Plus in having a project like that, they have to make money. I know people can do ISO and all, but not sure about having businesses distribute them or try to monetize part or all.
Of course, you know there are licenses/copyrights to things. I’m not going to even begin to be knowledgeable on it at all, but just kind of building on assumptions of how things work in general. If they were to do their own OS, I’m guessing they’d kind of have to start from scratch. It will be curious to see what people from Brave say, if they give feedback on it.
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While Brave OS can be set for free of charge and Microsoft get 100% money as the product is fully their property and brave software Inc is only an intermediary, Brave should care less about making an profit using Brave OS and focus higher on establishing a MUCH Stronger Ecosystem and strenghtening it, namingly Brave’s ecosystem.
while there will be no benefit(profits as you say) in creating Brave OS, it will greatly helpful in setting up a Stronger base/foundation for the other profitable softwares which brave could work on and cherish, For example, Brave Antivirus, Brave VPN, Brave talk, Brave Firewall, Brave themes, Brave wallet, Brave search, Brave Shields and so on… All of this will feel really good if everything is behind Brave OS instead of being on Stock windows.
Most importantly, this will boost company’s image, respect and reputation.
@scavxo I linked to this topic and asked Brendan Eich his thoughts. His reply:
Feel free to jump in over there. I wouldn’t go spam heavy, but if you can think of solutions to what he’s mentioning, might be worth jumping in. Keep in mind though, they are business first and foremost. Profit is always going to be necessary. At the very least, they can’t spend more on something than is going to be returned to them in some form or fashion.
You do see though, it’s about building up to the money to fund it. He isn’t saying no, just saying “maybe not right now.” Especially with how crypto world has kind of lost a lot of value over the past year or so with FTX, Crypto Winter, and the other little issues plaguing things.
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Microsoft has a simple policy on that matter: any commercial use of customized versions of their OS is strictly forbidden.
@talgeeze Yeah, I figured. I think that’s why Brendan Eich responded and said suggestions on best FOSS OS to use would be welcome.
So he’s saying they can consider it when they have capital/revenue for it, but would need to have the Free and Open Source OS.
I mean, I’m assuming Linux would basically be the answer, especially if they could simplify it a bit more where it could be as simple as Windows.
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Commercial usage applies only if Brave charges people for “Brave OS” where Brave team attempts to make people buy “windows license key/fee” as well as their own charge like 99$+ or higher, so while brave OS will be supplied completely for free and only necessity is “windows key” which is just a general necessity as it is in stock windows, i dont see the “commercial use” violation or such… Microsoft still gets their full fee and brave isnt trying to make any profit from the base os, so what’s wrong here ?
As is said, Microsoft gets 100% of their Money and Brave team won’t be doing anything shady behind the scenes to convert the windows key business model into something to their own, so there is nothing to violate, i believe.
Were you referring to the Brave themes, Brave antivirus and Brave VPN made for the customized version of windows 11(Brave OS) ? All these softwares are independent softwares that are separated from Brave OS… Meaning, People can Still download and install all of these softwares on Windows 11 if they really wanted it and they are not subjected to Exclusivity.
Only difference that the Brave OS will be making is that all of these softwares will be preinstalled while the Brave OS is meant to be used for the first time, cutting down the time of software installations of Brave themes (as it will be replaced windows desktop themes) and Brave Antivirus (as it will be fully replaced windows defender antivirus)…
In modern phrase as everyone say, all of the Brave software experience will work out of the box, nothing to hassle, it just works and provides the fastest windows OS experience by reducing windows processes to the lowest possible count, removing pre -installed apps, telemetry, spyware, tpm requirement…etc
In addition to this, Brave OS will provide extensive icons customizations such as desktop icons, bottom right taskbar icons specifically Wi-fi, safe eject, volume, charging, etc and also file explorer customizations… Brave will also have Excellent Display control for tweaking Brightness, Contrast, Saturation, Gamma and ability to save different profiles and ability to switch between these profiles using a hot key.
Brave team will be just making better windows experience and not trying to profit from the base work of Microsoft, they make money through Brave VPN, antivirus, themes…etc
please tell me more about violations and what i’m wrong here, Happy to Learn.
Well for starters distributing modified images of Windows (like ReviOS that was mentioned somewhere higher in this thread) is forbidden Microsoft EULA and is a violation of copyright.
you have any references to show that Microsoft trying to takedown all of the custom made OS based on Win 11 ?
these are not pirated version of windows, the activation is legit and Microsoft is getting their money.
im currently looking at this version of windows
Windows 10 19H2
very less CPU usage and RAM usage just as compared to 8.1
an update over this previous build 19H2
W10 21H2
i have noticed GPU drivers are available as it was missing for Win11 but i am confused as it only says windows 10 64 bit
and since there are so many versions of windows 10 out there, so all 19h2, 21h2,22h2 will be supported and work for this above configuration, right ?
the move to W10 wont be immediate as i have no interest in W10, i’ll only install this os if brave becomes so unusable and i think its not happening anytime soon… also the more i delay, the better this w10 based phoenix OS will get… Currently they have also released the 22h2 based build but i really dont like the fact they have not updated the icons for that build especially the recycle bin icon. Also, i find that hdd icons on file explorer in Win 8.1 is much more cooler than Win 10.
The key being legit is irrelevant. Microsoft getting their money is irrelevant. The Microsoft user license (the thing you are supposed to read before installing software) does not allow modifying Windows.
If you want to be able to modify your OS, use Linux.
Can a moderator just lock this thread?
Have to tag them for it. That said, it’s Friday night. While they do occasionally check in on things over the weekend, they pretty much don’t do much here for it. So likely not going to happen til Monday. Feel free though to tag Mattches, SaltyBanana, Eljuno, or whoever and see if they’ll lock it, lol. Otherwise we just all need to stop responding and it’ll be fine. (unfortunately, someone always seems to want the last word)
Well I’ll mute this thread instead.
You apparently seem to hate customized version of all these windows images… So all these talented software developers who build up these awesome custom OSes and keep their community up and running without any hindering from Microsoft to stop their work are wrong and You’re right ? Got it.
I can understand how annoying it must be to see this message every time you open Brave. It’s possible that there might be a way to disable this warning or get rid of it permanently, but if you’re having trouble figuring it out, it might be worth seeking out some additional help or guidance. You might consider posting about your problem on platforms like Reddit or other forums, where there are often helpful people who might be able to offer suggestions or recommendations. It’s also worth considering reaching out to the Brave support team for assistance.
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Windows 7 is an old operating system and Microsoft no longer supports it. I recommend you to upgrade to version 10, and then you will be able to use all the features. It took me a long time to get used to Windows 10, but now it is my favorite operating system. Moreover, I decided to buy Windows activation key here https://mylegitkeys.com/product/windows-10-enterprise-product-key-32-64-bit to get access to all operating system updates on time. I noticed that the licensed version works more stable.
Is anyone else using windows 7? Maybe there are people who use XP?
Windows 7 is an old operating system and Microsoft no longer supports it. I recommend you to upgrade to version 10, and then you will be able to use all the features. It took me a long time to get used to Windows 10, but now it is my favorite operating system. Moreover, I decided to buy Windows activation key here https://mylegitkeys.com/product/windows-10-enterprise-product-key-32-64-bit to get access to all operating system updates on time. I noticed that the licensed version works more stable.
People should stop writing in this useless thread where people just want to justify their ignorance and don’t upgrade for FREE to Win10 and/or Win11 which are better OS.
First, Brave already pushed to Nightly a way to make you accept that you will no longer get updates. https://github.com/brave/brave-core/pull/16553
That should be enough for these win7 ignorant users to just shut up and move on.
Second, this is NOT about Brave or Chromium, don’t these people understand hundreds of companies already dropped support for Win7? Even months or years ago Win7 is not supported by many small and big companies.
Want a small list?
Adobe (all adobe programs), Autodesk (All Autodesk important programs), Blender, Studio One, Blackmagic Design Davinci Resolve and Fusion, All The Foundry software, SifeFX Houdini, Affinity Software, Maxon software like Cinema4D,Zbrush and Redshift etc, Corel software, Vegas, lightworks, Hitfilm Pro, Marmoset toolbag, Rhino, Nevercenter software like Silo or Pixelmash, Unreal Engine 5, Open 3D Engine, Avid Software (protools, media composer), Wacom drivers are Win10+ only now, Clip Studio Paint, Krita… Shall I continue? do you get the point?
Do these people not upgrading because they don’t want (again it is free), not understand that Windows is a program launcher, which means, if a program launcher doesn’t support to launch programs and each months more and more programs drop support for it, then it becomes useless?
Maybe people don’t do anything with their computers, but come on, you are the ones who are not upgrading, nobody is stopping you. It is free even today after so many years.
If you don’t want to upgrade whatever, but you should stop justifying it with ignorant points and trying to make you seem like you are something special only because you are stubborn making your computer obsolete for not upgrading and then making your OS run less and less software.