Who ruined brave search

This comes up when I search for a vintage clip of women saying America is the best country in the world.

They give me anti-American propaganda and censor the clip I want to find.

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Clarifying Misconceptions - Understanding Brave Search and Search Results

Hello @Cookie23 ,

I understand your concern about Brave Search potentially providing propaganda information based on the search results you encountered. However, I would like to shed some light on the matter and provide you with a better understanding of how search results are generated.

Firstly, it’s essential to note that Brave Search aims to provide users with transparent and unbiased search results. The ranking of search results primarily relies on factors such as relevance, popularity, and user engagement. In the case you mentioned, the first video clip from The Newsroom, an American political drama television series, appeared as a top result due to its popularity and relevance to your specific search query. It’s important to consider that the context and intention behind the content may not align with your initial assumptions.

Key Points to Consider:

  1. Without investigating further or considering the source of the content, it is possible to misinterpret it as propaganda. However, by delving deeper into the video’s context, you will find that it is part of a renowned series that explores moral and reasonable lessons.

  2. Search engines, including Brave Search, take into account the popularity of websites and content when ranking search results. If a particular website or video receives a significant amount of traffic or engagement, it is more likely to appear among the top results. This popularity factor may influence the results you encounter, but it does not indicate a deliberate promotion of propaganda.

In the pursuit of transparency and providing diverse answers, Brave Search is committed to delivering unbiased search results. If you come across any search results that you believe may have biased or propaganda-like content, I encourage you to reach out to official support for further investigation. The Brave team is dedicated to addressing any concerns regarding search results and ensuring that users have a reliable and trustworthy search experience.

I hope this clarifies any misconceptions and provides you with a better understanding of how Brave Search functions. Thank you for bringing up this issue, as it allows Brave to continually improve and refine their search engine to meet the needs of users.

If you have any further questions or require additional assistance, please don’t hesitate to reach out.

Best regards,

LOL, you may claim or think it is not propaganda, but propaganda is in the eye of the beholder.

My take from your explanation is that if I search for unpopular subjects, I will be flooded with popular subjects results. Got it!

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It is sad that you honestly believe your political leanings are actually “popular” and thats why I am getting such terrible results on the search engine.

I really don’t understand why you could not put your points more succintly. This is not Reddit and you’re not AI. You’re saying that your views are more relevant and popular, and that I am misinterpreting information as propaganda when it isn’t. The screenshot and my original inquiry speaks for itself. Normal users are not falling for your stuff, no matter how dumb you think we are.

@Cookie23 Brave Search has been independent for a short while now. Their results had been more accurate because they were pulling API from Google and Bing but they recently stopped. That said, Brave compiles its data and refines primarily based on the Web Discovery Project. This means data is pulled together based on people using the browser and who are contributing to it.

There’s actually an ad campaign on Rewards right now trying to encourage people to opt into Web Discovery Project. If you hadn’t heard of it, you can learn more at https://brave.com/privacy/browser/#web-discovery-project and https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/4409406835469-What-is-the-Web-Discovery-Project-

As to why you are getting info you are, it’s because it’s popular. The result you showed on top is from a HBO show that was well known and still circles around on social media from time to time. I’m actually watching that series now, as I had missed it before.

Lastly (sorry, long reply), it’s important to realize that there’s going to be some complexities based on how data is being gathered and how new Brave is. Some of this was addressed by Brave on another post, if you’d like to read those, they are linked below:

Guys, you need to get out your techno search bubble from time to time. You can make any arguments you want, but when a user asks to get results for a vintage video about the US being the best country …and the first result is Why america is NOT the greatest…(the search even highlights NOT) then obviously something is very wrong with the search.

It’s like if I searched for media sources which claim that Trump IS popular in US, I would get instead the media sources which state that “Trump is NOT popular in US”. Because it is a more popular view. It’s laughable.

Or, if I search for the scientists who claim there is NO global warming, I would get the results which would say There IS global warming because it is a more popular view…come on…to defend this approach to search results is laughable.


@marty2021 Struggle is in them trying not to rerank or censor results. It’s a bit more old school in that it’s just plopping all results based on what you typed in. You have to look deeper. They do have tools like Goggles which people are supposed to use if you want to fine tune results and rerank.

That said, I already have been trying to push the Search team to add more options for people to be able to get some search limiters in. What is interesting is that in the past it seemed like quotation marks and all didn’t work. However, it seems they may have implemented it. Sadly, it doesn’t seem to have improved results. For example, check out search I just did based on @Cookie23’s search.

Plain and simple, Brave Search has a long way to go. You didn’t hear me making excuses or defending them. I just am letting you know where their technology stands and that issues that’s in play. It’s enough that I generally haven’t been using Brave Search.

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