On Youtube.com brave blocks the videos not only the ads

Nothing has changed since the update went out, do you have another Brave profile you can test in? Does it work in private window mode? Which version of Brave are you testing in?

I’m still on 1.47.186. I did the update as instructed for the component side of things and this happened to me again.

i think itop is also chromium like brave but it supports older windows version so i dont understand why brave refuse to add support…

we dont need security based updates but we need other important updates like features, components, runtime, webview…etc

i can still see brave update is still running everytime during windows startup so its not impossible for brave to provide an update
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had a site which has a youtube video embedded in it… with shields on, i cant see the video… with shields off, i can see/play the video

looked at shields and shields seem to block this specific line

https://www.youtube.com/youtubei/v1/log_event?alt=json&key=AIzaSyAO_FJ2SlqU8Q4STEHLGCilw_Y9_11qcW8

anyway to tell the brave shields to not block this specific line to experiment whether due to this line block, link is not working?

Answering the question, no, it doesn’t work in a private tab either.

I generally browse Youtube within private tabs to prevent it from “suggesting” videos later on. At first I thought this bug was some incompatibility between private tabs and Youtube (I’ve quite a few self-written extensions failing when running them in a Tor+private tab, chrome.action.disable for instance, always fails for Tor+private, even when you’re 100% sure the tab id passed to it is correct).

Seems like this problem is mostly affecting those stuck with Windows 7 and 8 from the looks of it.

Only affects older windows 7/8 builds, still investigating whether we can get around it.

Also note, that new adblock scripts features are incoming to cover youtube ads/baits. And it won’t be compatible with older Brave builds (since they will lack support for these scripts.)

please keep the yt based scripts as separate as all other websites are working correctly without issues

im ok with not using/missing out on using yt in PC( as i could use yt on smart tv if needed) but other websites are important and they work good… do not break the existing functionality… hope shields will live longer

Damn :frowning:

W7 x64 here using Brave, and indeed yesterday evening something changed where Youtube now doesn’t work at all with “Block Trackers & Ads” enabled in Brave Shields.

Something changed a couple of weeks ago where it would play a “blank” ad (black screen but with sound), now it just won’t allow me to browse youtube at all…

Yes yes I know unsupported etc, but works fine on Firefox! Other sites seem to be fine, too. If this could somehow be backwards-compatible tweaked to work with W7 Brave (1.47.186), that would be great. Youtube is one of the main websites I use and it would be a shame to not use Brave with it, or have to switch all the Shields off…

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/15h3nmt/is_anyone_else_having_a_problem_with_youtube_not/

Disabling shields and relying on uBlock Origin seems to be the way, if there is no interest to backport these changes to Windows 7 and 8.

At this point though, Chromium-based browsers are pissing me off more than they are worth.

  1. I can’t install my own self-signed extensions without unpacking them first (Google censorship for extensions outside of their store). This has been an issue for a long time, without a resolution from Brave: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20296
  2. The future is bleak with WEI in the horizon: https://github.com/chromium/chromium/commit/6f47a22906b2899412e79a2727355efa9cc8f5bd
  3. Lack of support for Windows 7 and 8, despite them still being popular enough due to backlashes involving Windows 10 and 11.
  4. Excessive resources usage that keeps getting worse.

Forking Chromium for an open privacy-oriented project was a mistake; way too much Google debt, not to mention further establishing another monopoly for them by relying on their technology.

EDIT: Brave Ad Block Updater - Version: 1.0.397 appears to have fixed the issue for now.

Thanks for telling me that the update came as I have been busy. It’s fine for now but who knows how long this will last. I do agree on points 2 & 4 in that the second one will all but kill the internet as we know it and the fourth is something that while an annoyance, it’s not too bad.

I also wish there was an alternative for us folks as Pale Moon ain’t worth nothing anymore and that who project went through a lot of drama that nearly killed the browser and even now, it barely can run stuff like YouTube without it hitting your performance. Chromium browsers unfortunately make up a majority of what people use on the net and the sad thing is that it may be that way for the foreseeable future. I dropped PM like a hot potato once I found Brave and now this happens and is making me question the future too.

a python based gui browser with cross platform support would be great

@user734690 you seem to be missing out on some information. For example:

This isn’t just a Windows thing. Code changes as time goes on. It’s a lot of work to make things work for various operating systems. This is why Linux, Mac, Windows, Android, iOS, and every operating system in the world all have a time at which they stop supporting it.

Again, kind of the point of updating your operating systems and devices. Keeping your equipment from 10+ years ago (Windows 8 released in 2012, so majority of anything with Windows 7 was made 2011 or sooner) is going to bound to create problems.

The cache, processing speed, processor threads, cores, etc are just significantly different. Look at some examples below:

You can compare a lot of things from 2012 to 2023. Whether it be processors, graphics cards, or anything else.

…nullify lots of other junk that Google puts into Chromium…

Yet, you didn’t mention the self-signed extension issue from my post: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20296 which has plagued Brave for years.

This isn’t just a Windows thing. Code changes as time goes on. It’s a lot of work to make things work for various operating systems. This is why Linux, Mac, Windows, Android, iOS, and every operating system in the world all have a time at which they stop supporting it.

Again, kind of the point of updating your operating systems and devices. Keeping your equipment from 10+ years ago (Windows 8 released in 2012, so majority of anything with Windows 7 was made 2011 or sooner) is going to bound to create problems.

Yet, lots of software retroactively support older hardware for a reason. Even modern Windows still supports 32-bits x86, despite x86_64 being older than Windows 7. Also, remember the backlash when Ubuntu thought it was a good idea to drop 32-bits support?
This PC was built back in 2014, and the majority of the x86_64 instruction set has remained the same (my CPU is AVX2 compatible and not many projects use instruction sets above SSE3).
While APIs change with time, it’s a common practice to fallback to older versions of the same API for older systems.
The real reason on why you dropped support is because QA is expensive, and since behemoth Google decided to drop support for them, and thus its QA, you didn’t want to spend resources yourself; again, the Google debt issue. Python dropped Windows 7/8 support after 3.8 for the same reason, they couldn’t find someone to maintain and QA them ( read this discussion with Guido van Rossum https://discuss.python.org/t/windows-7-support-for-python-3-9-or-3-10-without-a-fork/13842 ).

P.S. Chromium resource hogging issues is a long standing problem with Chromium itself. Even those running it through modern systems complain about it.

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Yep, I had nothing to say on that. Will be making inquiries on things later, but kind of pointless to speak on things I have no knowledge on.

Well, that’s part of the reason. And it’s included in what I said. You caught where I said “It’s a lot of work to make things work…” Money needed for QA, which includes employing people for it, is part of it. But that also means having to constantly modify code and everything to fit older specifications. Thus there’s eventually a point where it isn’t worth a business continuing to spend the time and money to offer support to older tech.

I do apologize if I sounded rude or entitled, that was not my intent, but I can see it by re-reading my post. Pragmatism can be hard to embed within text without sounding rude.

I don’t blame Brave and other smaller projects for dropping support; as a developer myself, I understand the costs and headaches of maintaining cross-platform projects, I just reject the notion that hardware and APIs are a significant reason for the decision.
The low-level APIs of Windows 7 and 8 aren’t hard to support when compared to Windows 10’s API, in fact, high-level abstracted code, which is where the vast majority of code is going to sit, don’t have to worry about low-level APIs anyway.

In my opinion, when Google announced ceasing support for Windows 7 and 8, the correct approach for Brave would’ve been to simply cease QA, but continue to offer updated builds for them. If a low-level API syscall was introduced that caused problems for the older systems, those could then be replaced for them (through macros) with older alternatives (MapViewOfFile2 and MapViewOfFile3 seem to be the most common offenders for smaller projects dropping support).
In short, offer “no guarantee” builds that you would be willing to hotfix ONLY if users were to report issues. For the most part, you wouldn’t have to worry about those builds, and even when a problem surfaces, the code change necessary to make those work would likely be minimal.

Can you provide a place or docs to figure out the multitude of brave options?

yeah they can work on a new build to patch it with 1.47.186 with all of the new chromium features which can be ported to older windows versions and maintain those updates in the name of Brave Legacy updates similar to Brave Nightly updates…

i do not want all of the new features which are being added in new versions of brave… im already happy and 100% satisfied with what brave already has…i just want the brave shields and chrome extensions, chrome web store to work longer

i know most google owned websites may no longer work but there are lots of classic websites where they haven’t changed much in the last 5 years so as long as all of those continue to work as they are now…there are no regrets.

But as a user of brave itself, it would be nice to know we are still getting some portion/parts of newer chromium and shield based updates INSTEAD of getting nothing… its still very nice of brave to provide ad block component based updates at least… hope they do it longer.

Working for me now, with Ad block switched back to Block Ads & Trackers. :slight_smile:

I don’t have additional add blocks. Or any additional rules for brave. It is clean install.

I’m working on Windows 10 Home, 22h2 and I have the problem , also i try to edit the list file, that didn’t work too. I updated everything , no luck here too.

In the end I just added add block for youtube only and turn off the brave shild. Now it works.

Also on my other pc , with the same build and same users brave works just fine.