open 10 tabs in Edge vs 10 tabs in Brave, in Edge, first you need to look where the last tab is, then move your mouse there, then wait for the button to go down on every new tab to open, which means you keep lowering your mouse more and more, until it is full and then the button is placed at the bottom.
Having it below the last tab is more convenient in general. You’re in a minority if you’re more frequently opening many new tabs at once.
I agree that the keyboard short-cut is a good work-around for the normal person, but there are single armed people in the world… or people with a few digits that aren’t able to span control+T with a single hand, etc., and if they’re using the mouse, it’s a super-long travel to go down to the bottom of the browser. Plus, think about all the boomer+ population who will likely want to stick to using a mouse…
How is having it below the last tab more convenient than always having it in the same place? It’s not. It’s just something we have grown accustomed to.
Because the tab related buttons would be grouped together, so if you interact with any tabs then proceed to add a new tab it’s always closer (and conveniently nearer to the middle of the screen)
Also it’s very inconvenient when the window is slightly lower on the screen as the + button becomes hidden, making it necessary to drag the window higher just to add a new tab. It’s the only UI element at the bottom (other than sidebar settings which is rarely used)
And it’s intuitive that the new tab will be in place of where the new tab button was! So you can directly close/mute/pin/whatever directly in the same place!
Current new tab button in vertical mode actually feels like an aspect of an unfinished feature, not a deliberate decision. Notice that the empty space under the list of the tabs has no context menu (at least for me on Mac OS / Brave 1.61.104) . Of course Brave has ‘reopen last closed tab’ menu item in a context menu of an open tab, but Chrome spent a good deal of effort teaching me to click on empty space for that.
First time I used vertical tab layout I was at a loss where the new tab button was and had to use cmd+t which is really inconvenient as most of the time when I browse my hands aren’t even on the keyboard, I select a bookmark from the bookmarks bar. So I would really prefer the new tab button to be on top, close to the bookmarks, this way ‘click new tab + click bookmarks bar item’ would work as usual. The button at the bottom is so far away it’s next to useless, I’d rather use cmd+t or ‘open bookmark in a new tab’, both of which are less than ideal.
I agree that it should at least be a choice where the button shows up when using the vertical tabs.
Another option, could be something similar to what Firefox uses, where you mouse click with the middle mouse button on an empty part of the “tab bar” and it creates a new tab. This would at least make it possible to open a new tab without the need for the + button to change places and people needing to unnecessarily move the mouse that further down the screen when you only have like 4 or 5 tabs open…
Yes, I have high-res monitors and the new tab button is far away from any tabs. Add the option to change it please. Bonus points for having multiple options, like:
With this arguement in the horizontal tab view the plus button should always have to be on the right side of the screen, next to the plugins, not after the last tab. In the vertical view the new tab button have to be the same position: Right after the last tab. Edge has the perfect solution for this.
Exactly. The NT button is perfect when in vertical tabs as is, because it stays at the bottom in a fixed position. For horizontal tabs, Brave should reposition the + button to the far right side of the tabbar (not to the immediate right of the last tab) so that it also stays fixed in place when opening tabs.
why not keep the new tab button at end of last tab when there are less tabs and when there are more tabs then fix the position of the button at bottom.
Sorry but it makes no sense at all if you look at the movements the user has to make in order to use that button. In this case a consistent position of the button is not enough, you have to preserve the user workflow. That’s why Apple in Safari moved this button out of the tab bar into the main toolbar and let tabs span the whole space of the tab bar.
The critical issue here is that when I have few tabs open I have to constantly move my wrist/hand between the tab group and the new tab button
and this is space is too much already at a vertical resolution of 1080 pixels.
Even if the button is in a consistent position the user has to always aim for it which in the end creates more fatigue. The approach use in Edge (having the button immediately below the last tab) is far from ideal but at least gives the user a consistent behavior (rather than a consistent position) that works also in the case of few tabs open.
That’s why the new tab button works in this way also for horizontal tabs on nearly all the browsers (again, Safari is the only exception). I have a ultrawide monitor and with a maximized window it would be a nightmare having to always reach the far right side of my screen every time I have to open a new tab.
In the end the objectively best solution is the one adopted by Apple, with Edge being the second best. Brave solution is not viable and makes the vertical tab function unusable.
Having the +tab under the open tabs as per Vivaldi and it seems others too, ‘just works’ for me, although I can see that having it at the top may make sense to have it in a constant spot or if there are many tabs listed. Having it where it is though is a complete fail for me as I have Windows Task bar hide when not in use. If I overshoot when seeking the +tab button, the Taskbar appears and blocks +tab’s use. Basically it’s a UX bug.
The best would be to put the +tab button under the last opened tab. If Brave want to have consitent place for it maybe switch up with the open/close sidebar button. I use the +tab button more frequently than the open/clos sidebar button.
But if you have about 20 or more tabs open, and people often do, then having the + button “right below” the last tab doesn’t solve your issue anyway, since it would be at the bottom just like it is now.
Please add the New Tab button below the existing tabs. Edge has it in both locations, below the existing tabs and at the bottom of the vertical tab bar. It’s a question of momentum. Yes, I will have 200-250 tabs open at most times but in order to get there I need to start somewhere. It’s no use starting to use it if I can’t open the first 10 tabs (let’s say) quickly. I use Edge purely because of this and while I would love to use Brave, this is the primary reason stopping me. And I don’t use Safari on my Mac either for the same reason, bad New Tab button positioning for research and moving quickly.
Could the developers at least implement “double click” in the blank area to create a new tab, similar to how Vivaldi does it? That solved the problem for me when switching to Vivaldi from Edge.
