I was going to ignore this thread — let it spiral into oblivion and die a well-deserved death — but I’m amused by folks whose words make clear they’ve never read the US Constitution’s 1st Amendment. They’re foaming-at-the-mouth about free speech and de-platforming of people and services. I’m sure these same people support strong private property rights. Amazon Web Services, Facebook, Firefox, Google, Twitter (and Brave) — these are all private entities, every one of 'em. Think of it this way: Amazon Web Services (or any other private entity) is a deeply religious baker; and Parler and Trump want to buy a gay wedding cake.
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Every civilised society has the right to free speech, but equally every civilised society puts a limit on what is deemed to be acceptable free speech. Most people are perfectly willing to accept the latter if it affects their opponents, but are not so keen if it affects themselves.
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Me as well.
Anyway, I trust Brendan Eich.
I hope I won’t have reason to change my mind in the future.
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Some have the courage to speak. Statement from the Epik.com registrar: https://www.epik.com/blog/parlerstatement
On the whole, I agree with you though.
How generously you have deigned to educate us poor, unwashed rubes concerning the First Amendment. I, poor ignorant me, was fine with the dumpster-fire otherwise known as Twitter controlling its content until it, along with the other near-monopolies google, facebook and amazon, censored a sitting POTUS. And now, with the bit between their teeth, these wild horses are calling for the suppression of any and all speech that doesn’t conform to the official DNC narrative. And when the dear leader CEO of Mozilla joined the braying, I ignorantly removed it from my machine, foolishly hoping to find a browser more compatible with my very-limited understanding of free speech. But your seminar on the First Amendment has opened my eyes. Many thanks.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that near-monopolies Twitter and Amazon have colluded to shut down one of the few refuges for free speech, namely Parler. But Parler had it coming, am I right? This free speech stuff gets so confusing.
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You are wrong at some statements. Strong private property rights are OK, but no one should apply moderation IF they are being well protected by Section 230. Nowadays you can be removed by entirely political reasons, and can’t legally appeal like any other business.
Also, your example about the bakery is completely wrong by two points:
- A gay couple can try to sue the baker if they want. Due Section 230 no one can appeal against Social Media corporations. Even more, they have no way to directly contact them (no phone or email).
- The gay couple is demanding a physical labor for a man, likely against his will. What if I’m the baker and I have arachnophobia, would you force me to make a spider alike cake?
Now, allowing censorship will always lead to segregation (just look what Gab is), and segregation can only lead to social tension and violence. Keeping a stable society it’s government and NGO duties for sure and that’s why shouldn’t be granted full responsibility to corporations, as they may or not do it for profit reasons.
I really don’t need to know Brave’s “stated” stance on this because their actions will speak volumes more than any statement. As of now, I think it’s clear where they stand, at least for me…and hope it stays that way and they stay OUT of the present fray. Why companies jump into the political nonsense (either side) is beyond me, especially when it is so arbitrary and many times extremely hypocritical. Thank you, Brave, and you are now my go-to browser…hope it stays that way. 
Parler made a mistake: they used a third-party cloud platform (AWS). Had they had their own servers and ASN — preferably with a free-speech-friendly worldwide CDN — nobody could have censored them. Expensive? Yes, but it’s necessary, not to say compulsory. That being said, I believe Parler will be online again sooner or later and, most likely, they will also get many more users. People are leaving Twitter in droves, and Twitter is losing money: https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/twtr
I totally agree with your assessment. Parler took the easier, less-expensive path, naively thinking AWS would be a politically-neutral host, and it has paid the price. And I certainly hope you’re right about Parler’s reappearance.
Freedom of speech is not about politics, its is a founding principle of democracy and imprescriptible human rights. What has been seen on Facebook and Tweeter, even against someone like Trump is affecting many particularly about how much freedom is left over internet. Brave being a browser, interfering on user freedom would be a considerable set back.
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+1. I would very much appreciate Brave to comment of their views of human rights freedoms including the fundamental freedom of speech, and particularly over and through the wolrdwi wide web.
I do not know the others but in my case, the answer is logical. Brave implemented the TOR system on one of its tabs. The people behind Tor advocate for human rights and tor is used as a method of privacy and against censorship, for the same reason it is used by many journalists and criminals. I don’t think brave would have implemented something that they themselves disagree with.
Although it would be best to wait for the official statement from Brave about this.
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I for one would have not expected the CEO to respond let alone on a community forum so thumbs up to you Brendan. And the stance seems clear…
I totally agree 
I will support this browser as much as possible: it’s time to start recommending it in several discussion boards (I don’t care about ads not working for me, actually I won’t post anymore regarding this issue).
As I said before,
Thank you Mr. @brendan Eich for chiming in.
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I’m not surprised that Brendan answered, I have seen him answer other questions on the forum. It seems correct to me that he is the one who answers these types of questions, since he is the CEO. This shows how much he cares about his community (something to admire, in my opinion).
The stance is more than clear, I will continue to support Brave.
Thanks you @brendan and all the people who work at brave. Let’s make 2021 beneficial
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Brave-O, Sir!!! This to me is courage, not the easy route of shutting something/someone down you don’t agree with…and this goes for either side of the political aisle. Will continue to use and promote the Brave!!!
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